[00:00:00 - 00:00:06] Mystic Fire Video and Audio proudly presents Terrence McKenna [00:00:06 - 00:00:08] History Ends in Green [00:00:08 - 00:00:13] This is tape 5 of a 6 cassette series [00:00:13 - 00:00:33] [Music] [00:00:33 - 00:00:42] Well this is sort of, I regard this as the freebie lecture that you could sit out if you had a massage [00:00:42 - 00:00:51] because it's just sort of, it's something which I discovered is one way of putting it or dreamed up is another [00:00:51 - 00:00:58] and it's, if nothing else, it demonstrates the slippery nature of ideas [00:00:58 - 00:01:05] and I, depending on the audience I'm talking to, I present it different ways [00:01:05 - 00:01:10] like sometimes I present it as God's truth [00:01:10 - 00:01:18] and then like in Austria, this art thing, I presented it as a work of conceptual art [00:01:18 - 00:01:23] so, yes, safer, right [00:01:23 - 00:01:31] so, and it is, it's a concept, it's an idea that small computers such as we're looking at [00:01:31 - 00:01:38] came along just in time or about 5 years after I first needed them [00:01:38 - 00:01:45] and so I'll just sort of talk about it a little bit and feel my way into it [00:01:45 - 00:01:51] it's more fun to play with than to discuss the theoretics of [00:01:51 - 00:01:59] but if you don't, you know, if you don't have some appreciation for the theory then it doesn't make any sense at all [00:01:59 - 00:02:08] the basic notion is, or the way in which this idea parts company from ordinary science [00:02:08 - 00:02:20] is there is the idea that there is something which has been overlooked in the categorizing of the forces which shape and maintain the cosmos [00:02:20 - 00:02:23] something has been overlooked [00:02:23 - 00:02:35] and I call this something novelty following Alfred North Whitehead's philosophy as put forth in process and reality [00:02:35 - 00:02:43] so novelty, and one way of thinking of it if you have a background in eastern philosophy is Dao [00:02:43 - 00:02:49] what we're talking about here is pretty much something like the Dao but we're going to call it novelty [00:02:49 - 00:02:58] and it comes and goes in the world according to mysterious and unfathomable rules [00:02:58 - 00:03:05] and it builds structure up, dynastic families, corporations, nation states [00:03:05 - 00:03:14] and it pulls structure down according to some whim or some unimaginable algorithm [00:03:14 - 00:03:18] or previously unimaginable algorithm [00:03:18 - 00:03:26] and part of what got me started thinking along these lines was simply trying to make mathematical models of Dao [00:03:26 - 00:03:30] in other words taking the statements at the beginning of the Dao Te Ching [00:03:30 - 00:03:40] and taking them as mathematical formalisms and then seeing what the constraints were on a system that operated along those lines [00:03:40 - 00:03:50] well eventually that led me to look at the I Ching which is sort of the text par excellence [00:03:50 - 00:04:01] relative to this idea that time has qualities and this idea of the ebb and flow of novelty that I was playing with [00:04:01 - 00:04:06] I discovered was a notion that was very old in the east [00:04:06 - 00:04:15] it's not a notion that's even tolerated in western thinking because science in order to do its business [00:04:15 - 00:04:23] must have the assumption that experiments are time independent [00:04:23 - 00:04:32] that whether you do an experiment on a Tuesday or a Saturday this is not a valid parameter of the experiment [00:04:32 - 00:04:37] however this idea is suggesting something else [00:04:37 - 00:04:42] it's suggesting that time actually does have a quality [00:04:42 - 00:04:50] and that this quality so far introduced as novelty and its opposite [00:04:50 - 00:04:59] and I used to call its opposite entropy but at Rupert Sheldrake's urging I now call it habit [00:04:59 - 00:05:08] so this is a kind of Manichean cosmology in which habit and novelty are in a constant struggle with each other [00:05:08 - 00:05:18] one gaining dominance for a period of time and then the other gaining dominance in an endless dynamic relationship [00:05:18 - 00:05:28] the result of which over long periods of time is that novelty is conserved [00:05:28 - 00:05:35] I think I used this phrase last night in the introductory talk but without explaining the ideas which lay behind it [00:05:35 - 00:05:42] but the idea is that from the psychedelic point of view or from this point of view [00:05:42 - 00:05:51] the universe is perceived as a kind of engine for producing and distilling and maintaining novelty [00:05:51 - 00:05:57] and passing novelty on to yet higher states of novelty [00:05:57 - 00:06:07] each level of novelty somehow allowing the emergence of properties previously forbidden at more constrained levels [00:06:07 - 00:06:14] so that the whole thing is a bootstrapping process to greater and greater novelty and self reflection [00:06:14 - 00:06:25] well so that's the basic notion then the idea is following the statement of the Tao Te Ching [00:06:25 - 00:06:31] that the way that can be told of is not an unvarying way and following the idea [00:06:31 - 00:06:38] the ideas implicit in the I Ching that time is a succession of irreducible elements [00:06:38 - 00:06:48] that time in some way is made of irreducible elements in the same way that matter has been discovered by Western science [00:06:48 - 00:06:57] to be made of irreducible elements so somehow time is not simply a plenum a featureless homogeneous surface [00:06:57 - 00:07:03] upon which the experiments of Newtonian causality can be carried out [00:07:03 - 00:07:09] but actually when we look at it at the level the fine grained level of experience [00:07:09 - 00:07:17] within the context of a love affair or a dynastic family's rise and fall or something like that [00:07:17 - 00:07:27] we see then you know that it's permeated with qualities and in the West these qualities were identified by the Greeks [00:07:27 - 00:07:37] and called fate and said you know to be is to be faith laden somehow the fates impinge on our lives [00:07:37 - 00:07:45] and lead us to our destinies science got rid of all this and then we just had you know flying atoms whizzing around [00:07:45 - 00:07:53] in nothingness leading to some inevitable cause history dictated by mathematics [00:07:53 - 00:08:00] well okay I don't want to say too much more about the theoretics of it but inevitably the question comes up [00:08:00 - 00:08:13] once we get into the wave where did you say you got this wave again and the answer is it arose from a fairly stone circumstances [00:08:13 - 00:08:23] but a fairly dry problem meaning you know I was quite swept away and in the grip of the mushroom and so forth [00:08:23 - 00:08:34] on a scale of weeks and years not days but it posed a conundrum a koan of a peculiar and confined problem [00:08:34 - 00:08:40] which was what is the nature of the order of the King Wen sequence [00:08:40 - 00:08:49] now background the King Wen sequence is a certain arrangement of the 64 hexagrams of the Qing [00:08:49 - 00:08:57] and this particular arrangement is very old found on shoulder bones 3500 years old and so forth [00:08:57 - 00:09:04] so it was simply asking a formal question what are the rules which produce the King Wen sequence [00:09:04 - 00:09:11] it's always called a sequence it's always revered as one of the oldest of human abstractions [00:09:11 - 00:09:20] but what in fact is the sequence well in looking at that and I won't try to lead it through lead you through it tonight [00:09:20 - 00:09:31] unless in a question and answer period some maniac consists but what it boils down to is that in the King Wen sequence [00:09:31 - 00:09:41] of the Qing there is embedded a fractal algorithm a fractal algorithm very much like the fractal algorithms [00:09:41 - 00:09:48] that have been discovered in just the past seven or eight years by modern mathematics using high-speed computers [00:09:48 - 00:09:59] and but the interesting thing about this fractal algorithm inside the Qing is that it actually appears to make good [00:09:59 - 00:10:08] on the claim which the Yi Qing has always been so concerned to make namely that it was a piece of [00:10:08 - 00:10:19] profitistic machinery for mapping future time in other words that it was a predictive engine for knowing the future [00:10:19 - 00:10:28] so what I brought out of it or what I was led to find within it by the promptings of the mushroom genies [00:10:28 - 00:10:40] was a certain pattern a certain pattern that I was able to mathematically nail to the wall and define [00:10:40 - 00:10:49] and then all the computer does here is time scale this pattern and then I will become the devil's advocate for this thing [00:10:49 - 00:11:02] and I will claim to you that this undulating wave on the screen actually describes the career of novelty in time [00:11:02 - 00:11:12] in all time in all places throughout the history of the universe and we will look at big pieces of time little pieces of time [00:11:12 - 00:11:23] and you will quickly get the idea that whether this is quote-unquote true or not this is some kind of weird heuristic device [00:11:23 - 00:11:36] that has about it the ozone stench of other worldliness I mean it was not thought up by the unaided human mind [00:11:36 - 00:11:50] there is a kind of seamless completedness to it that marks it not as a discovery or an invention but as an artifact of some other order [00:11:50 - 00:11:56] well so now let's look at the screen and if I can come up with a pointer and even if I can [00:11:56 - 00:12:04] and I will show you how this game is played if the software will cooperate the software is very good [00:12:04 - 00:12:16] it was written by Peter Meyer the idea existed before the software but before the software these screens that you're going to see [00:12:16 - 00:12:29] it took an entire day to make one of them and it just left you you know red-eyed and tremoring and there was the possibility for hundreds of arithmetic errors [00:12:29 - 00:12:39] and any one of which would throw off the signature so the invention of small computers in 1977 really opened this up for us [00:12:39 - 00:12:54] before we ran telephone directory sized lists of numbers which we could then look up and and you know go off and then produce drafts somewhat like this [00:12:54 - 00:13:07] okay now I know it's hard to see but the main thing you have to see is the line and what it's doing and then I'll try and explain everything else and make sense of it [00:13:07 - 00:13:20] these are novelty units along this axis and we've never named them but you can think of them as eschatons or whatever white head-ons [00:13:20 - 00:13:31] but this is the important axis and this is the time axis now what's being portrayed on the screen right now is six billion years [00:13:31 - 00:13:41] six billion years in other words a time span longer than most people require for the life of this planet [00:13:41 - 00:13:54] the earth is thought to have condensed around five and a half billion years ago and that very fact is portrayed here because this now here's a convention [00:13:54 - 00:14:04] that you have to internalize or nothing from this point on will make sense it's very simple it's but it's somewhat counterintuitive [00:14:04 - 00:14:22] it's that when the line moves down novelty is increasing when the line moves down novelty is increasing when the line moves up habit or entropy or recidivistic tendencies are increasing [00:14:22 - 00:14:33] okay well so then looking at the life of the universe on a scale of six billion years you see why I say it's an engine for the conservation of novelty [00:14:33 - 00:14:48] because novelty though there have been some severe setbacks like here generally novelty has been conserved and right now we're down in here in this stochastic noise [00:14:48 - 00:15:00] and the damped oscillation at the very end of the cycle so close to the zero value which is the maximum value for novelty that for all practical purposes [00:15:00 - 00:15:17] at this scale we can say be said to be next to the zero value and this is I maintain what accounts for the chaotic and highly novel nature of modern history or the 20th century [00:15:17 - 00:15:36] it's that we are so near the zero value the maximum value for novelty that it's actually like there's an anticipatory image seeping through which contorts the 20th century into kind of apocalyptic image riddled social space that it is [00:15:36 - 00:16:03] well now let's see God willing we can make this thing zoom in zoom yes so now we have 750 million years on the screen and what was previously stochastic noise lost near the zero point is beginning to emerge instead as a repetitious landscape of deep lunges toward novelty [00:16:03 - 00:16:30] so now how to interpret this this is about 400 about 500 million years ago so that big downsweep was the emergence of very simple life forms but the major career of biology has gone on along this sawtoothed edge that is about 500 million years from here to here [00:16:30 - 00:16:46] and this is in good accordance with the fossil record this is where the great speciations and extinctions took place after the establishment of the core data about 500 million years ago [00:16:46 - 00:17:09] okay now I'll restart the zoom do you begin to get the idea of how what we're what you as the viewer or the jury or whatever should be asking yourself is does the wave fit my personal interpretation and understanding of novelty as we move through time [00:17:09 - 00:17:26] because we are obviously at this scale it's pretty much up for grabs I mean because we're talking about such generalized events as the emergence of life and so forth but we're going to get down on it we're going to enter at some point the cognizable domains of known history [00:17:26 - 00:17:43] I mean let's say since the fall of the Roman Empire or since the fall of Richard Nixon you know depending on how long your memory is okay let me get this thing going again here here is the last hundred million years [00:17:43 - 00:18:00] now I stopped the screen here because there there is an event in the last hundred million years which this thing would have to successfully predict in order to proceed further as a successful theory [00:18:00 - 00:18:23] it's that 65 million years ago either there was an enormous volcanic eruption on the surface of the earth like nothing anybody has ever seen or imagined or there was a planet decimal impact on the North Atlantic Ridge which seems to be the more probable candidate for what happened [00:18:23 - 00:18:39] and this laid down the so-called iridium here 65 million years ago it's a perfect hit in other words the two cannot be dated precisely enough that we can't say that one is not precisely the other [00:18:39 - 00:18:55] so this is our first here at 65 million years ago and actually there was one earlier I think a hundred and seventy million years ago which it also picks up but we've shot beyond that [00:18:55 - 00:19:18] so now and that was the event which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs nothing larger than a chicken walked away from this event on the entire planet right here and it gave the permission for the emergence of the mammals and the whole phyla of the earth took a sudden different turn [00:19:18 - 00:19:45] which was explored along here until about 45 million years ago and then there was some kind of carrying capacity problem or who knows what it is this is really approaching the height of the speciation of the age of mammals occurred about 35 million years ago at the bottom of this trough [00:19:45 - 00:20:02] okay so what we're looking at here is a hundred million years and this is the period in which we emerged as a species out of arboreal primates out of bipedal proto hominids on the grasslands of Africa [00:20:02 - 00:20:30] and we come out of this but most of the action for us as a thinking species is on this you know this period here toward the very end this perfect kind of volcanic looking cone which I call history's fractal mountain and which is sort of the signature of the whole wave as you'll see as we get into it [00:20:30 - 00:20:53] okay now let's again start the zoom 5 million years and let's look at this because now what it's saying is that suddenly 5 million and just slightly further back there's large punctuation in the novelty on the planet and we know a lot about this period [00:20:53 - 00:21:16] and strangely enough what we know about this period confirms this model very closely because what these things are known to be are glaciations which begin on this time scale and these low points here correspond very closely with the interglacial periods [00:21:16 - 00:21:39] you see what's happening is populations of human beings and animals are being locked up when the ice moves south then during the interglacials these islanded populations are mixing and you're getting movement progressive speciation in the fossil record along at the bottom of these gradients [00:21:39 - 00:21:58] and you know it's a technical matter to match the glaciations in different parts of the world with this but the agreement is pretty close or you know a case can be made 45,000 years and let's look at this [00:21:58 - 00:22:19] okay this is a period of time where we actually begin to get artifacts human artifacts of of an interesting sort and it's very hard to date the emergence of language but it's interesting that one school holds that it occurred about 33,000 years ago [00:22:19 - 00:22:38] and that we get this very steep movement into novelty here right there this is probably the heyday of the Neanderthals because this is where the populating Neanderthals seem to be the highest and found in the largest areas [00:22:38 - 00:22:54] but this is a glacial period the last glacial period and when the interglacial arrived about 19,000 years ago you get what's called the beginning of the Magdalenian era [00:22:54 - 00:23:23] and this is a tremendous explosion of creativity painting ochre burials ritual mutants all of these things that appear on this and this is I maintain where this partnership paradise this mushroom pastoral feminized ecologically dynamic and balanced society existed [00:23:23 - 00:23:42] along this gradient here then it broke up around 10,000 years ago drying and the factors that we discussed shattered it and there was a carrying capacity problem or something like that here let's see this in a little more detail [00:23:42 - 00:24:07] but we're now closing distance with the cognizable domains of known history so if the theory is going to fail it should fail as the data accumulates and the dates become more precise [00:24:07 - 00:24:20] we're looking at 45,000 years 22,000 years 11,000 years let's look at this [00:24:20 - 00:24:41] okay now what it's saying is that after this carrying capacity problem around 10,000 BC was there was somehow overcome and there was a very very steep descent into novelty which reached its culmination around 6300 BC [00:24:41 - 00:25:03] well this corresponds very well with the dates for the chatel here yoke in Turkey which is this Anatolian town 9,000 years old that achieved a level of civilization that was not similar seen at any other site until a thousand or more years later [00:25:03 - 00:25:28] in other words until there were civilizations establishing themselves along this gradient this was the last bastion of the of the goddess partnership mushroom symbiosis and what destroyed these people we know chatel here yoke level five was destroyed in 6500 BC by wheeled chariot people from the north [00:25:28 - 00:25:52] in other words this spells the indo-european bad guys who who came from north of the Caspian Sea and then you see this tremendous re-establishment of traditional pattern well then along this gradient here you know when I went to school what we were taught was history begins at Sumer [00:25:52 - 00:26:17] this was what we were always told that it went Sumer, Ur, Chaldea, Babylon, Egypt and in fact those great patriarchal river based civilizations established themselves on a gradient down here with Egypt right here at the bottom establishing a new high water mark for novelty [00:26:17 - 00:26:34] a high water mark that would not be surpassed until the establishment of the Greco-Roman civilization over here along this upswing what you get are a series of meathead civilizations [00:26:34 - 00:26:58] the Hittites, the Mitanni, the Assyrians, these are all kick-ass chariot warfare warrior caste you know that rigmarole all that's going along here then there's the great turning point I mean here again you're seeing the signature of the algorithm and I call it history's fractal mountain [00:26:58 - 00:27:15] notice that what I'm saying is that all of history from the building of the great pyramids to the present moment is portrayed by that much of the screen and now we can go into this and explore parts of it [00:27:15 - 00:27:17] let's look at it a little closer [00:27:17 - 00:27:26] 11,000 years on the screen there's history's fractal mountain 5,000 years let's look at this for a minute [00:27:26 - 00:27:33] okay this is 5,000 years we're still targeted on today [00:27:33 - 00:28:00] and what it's saying is that there was clearly a great moment a single great moment of shift at some point in the past when a series of conservative tendencies habitual patterns of activity were in a sense overthrown once and for all and even though there was plenty of shit to be slogged through from here to here [00:28:00 - 00:28:28] the plot was inevitable okay well so what is that point well it's about 980 BC so what was going on then this is the shift to it's essentially that moment when Mycenaean piracy overwhelmed the goddess and the Greeks stopped being fishermen and pulled their boats up on the shore and started to talk philosophy [00:28:28 - 00:28:53] and that set off a cascade of cultural effects that then reverberate to this day it comes down along this gradient then down here you get the fall of Rome then since the fall of Rome you get this series of wildly oscillating cultural effects until as recently as the European Enlightenment in 1740 [00:28:53 - 00:29:07] when the wave then drops to yet lower levels and begins to explore forms of novelty related to the human machine integration and electromagnetic technology and so forth and so on [00:29:07 - 00:29:30] we'll look at this but I just wanted to call your attention to this and for another reason there's a concept here which I haven't talked about yet but which is good to introduce now and that is the concept of resonance because this algorithm is fractal because it is self-nested on many levels [00:29:30 - 00:29:55] you encounter the same topological manifold over and over again well since we're looking at history it's natural to make the analogical assumption that these repetitious topologies are somehow related to each other so that there's a suggested in this theory a series of natural nested cycles [00:29:55 - 00:30:19] where for instance every 67 years all the themes of the previous 4,306 years are somehow condensed and acted out and it's the interface and interference pattern set up by these times these times in the past and in the future sliding against each other [00:30:19 - 00:30:32] that create phenomena like fads and fashions and outbreaks of hysteria and weird taste things and ripples in the collective mind [00:30:32 - 00:30:58] okay so this is the signature of history's fractal mountain greco-roman civilization and its spectrum of effects are this long cascade down here now let's look at it a little more 1430 years and this I wanted you to see because this is the period of history that we all know the most about [00:30:58 - 00:31:14] and strangely enough the wave is very willing to make predictions in this region of history this is one of those levels of magnification where the ebb and flow of novelty is predicted as very radical and highly punctuated [00:31:14 - 00:31:33] so he looks for his crib sheet here so when you go through this and you're trying to understand what's going on you're supposed to have novelty occurring at the bottoms of these troughs [00:31:33 - 00:32:00] well this one in the 930s in the 10th century is the culmination of Islam the creation of the caliphates of Baghdad and this was the one where Europe gets left out all this mathematics and poetry and alchemy is being created down here [00:32:00 - 00:32:27] then there's a series of bounce offs recidivist tendencies until you get over to this one which is about 1119 and what this is all about is it's the height of the Gothic revival and the Crusades [00:32:27 - 00:32:44] the people who are active in the bottom of that thing are people like Bernard of Clairvaux, Peter Lombard, Eleanor of Aquitaine, Thomas of Becket, Pope Adrian the fourth, all those folks famous from Masterpiece Theatre [00:32:44 - 00:33:03] they were all happening right down there so you know then the next steep descent into novelty is this one here in 1355, 1354, 1356 [00:33:03 - 00:33:14] well this is the greatest demographic catastrophe that Europe ever experienced it was the Black Death a third of the population of Europe died there [00:33:14 - 00:33:38] okay well then this one this very steep plunge into novelty the top up here is 1440 Gutenberg is inventing printing in Mainz near Frankfurt and by the time you get to the bottom down here it's 1492 the entire Italian Renaissance lies on the gradient of that plunge [00:33:38 - 00:33:59] so you can see what the argument is and it seems to emerge with more clarity as we have more data is that history is actually some kind of process on a vast scale that is under the control of this particular mathematical algorithm for some reason [00:33:59 - 00:34:20] I mean this is the fractal dimension of the historical unfolding of the experience of the species what you get down here is the discovery of the new world the lost half of the planet and that sets off a round of discovery and exploration that keeps things novel for a while [00:34:20 - 00:34:39] but then slavery gets reestablished and a whole bunch of bad social habits take root and it pushes it clear back up to here but then this is the beginning of the European enlightenment and it descends very rapidly [00:34:39 - 00:34:59] with then the American Revolution the French Revolution and the Nep and the Napoleonic Restoration all down in the bottom of this trough well then let's go forward just a little bit more the 20th century is coming up now there it is [00:34:59 - 00:35:28] now remember how I called it history's fractal mountain and we looked at on a scale of 4000 years well it was this signature something very like it with just slight scaling differences within the 20th century from 1945 to 2012 we're recapitulating in some weird way all the themes of the previous 4306 year cycle [00:35:28 - 00:35:43] so for instance the way this game is played is remember I said that we had the old riverine empires down coming along this gradient and that down here we got the Egyptian manifest cultural manifestation [00:35:43 - 00:36:11] well now we're looking at the 20th century we're seeing the resonances of the Egyptian cultural manifestation and we see that they reached their culmination in 1933 to 36 so what this is saying is that the quality of this trough is a millenarian cult based on the deification of a leader figure [00:36:11 - 00:36:37] coupled with a hysterical obsession with tasteless architecture and we see this set of themes played out both in pharaonic Egypt and in the third right of course I mean once you see that one is the resonance of the other you see of course of course that's clearly what was going on [00:36:37 - 00:36:53] well then remember I said that the great turning point in human history was when the Mycenaean pirates squashed the Minoan goddess loving folks and set off the cultural cascade of Greco Roman civilization [00:36:53 - 00:37:19] well in this scheme of things that moment happens right up here in early 1967 and of course if you lived through that moment you know that there was a kind of pagan revival right there which then got smashed and then we rode our way down into this long set of cascades [00:37:19 - 00:37:48] into then the wild oscillation of the present and one of the things that I wanted to talk about a little bit tonight is how we've actually entered into a new kind of time it began about three or four years ago three two years ago depending what it has to do with this for a long time we were on a descending gradient into ever greater novelty as we approached this asymptotically increasing novelty [00:37:48 - 00:38:12] now we are so close to it that we have begun to oscillate around a mean and this explains you know the end of the Cold War the breakup of the Soviet Union a number of things and we are going to live in this kind of time and to the culmination of the time wave itself which occurs in 2012 [00:38:12 - 00:38:36] the time wave is unable to make predictions past 2012 AD when a patient is itself limiting property because as a fractal description of a data field it only works if you assume that the whole thing wraps itself around itself and disappears up its own gullet on December 2012 AD [00:38:37 - 00:39:03] only 22 years in the future now there we could talk about how could this be and what does it mean what I think it means is that the presence of self reflecting organisms people on this planet indicates the nearby presence or the potential eminent emergence of some higher state of organization [00:39:03 - 00:39:27] we are not simply the startled witnesses to this emergence of a new level of organization our presence here is the first indication that it's going to happen it's almost like you can think of a pond when the surface of the pond begins to churn you know the smart money knows that something is moving toward the surface and is going to burst through [00:39:27 - 00:39:49] well history human history all this dream exchange and information trading and lying and so forth it goes on is the churning of the surface of the pond and the smart money should know you know that there is a momentous hidden force moving beneath the surface that all this is presaging [00:39:49 - 00:40:03] and so I think this is that kind of thing that as we approach the hyper dimensional meltdown point or the chronosynclastic infundibulum [00:40:03 - 00:40:32] precursive images of it will be thrown off I think everybody's visions now tend to take the form of totality symbols, and this is because it's constellating itself into a totality we are so close now to the trans dimensional object that it invades our dreams are advertising or waking fantasy, our art, our mathematics, everything is contorted by the [00:40:33 - 00:40:59] attraction of this transcendental object Blake talked about this kind of thing anyway now let's go in a little closer there because well to human in a basic 44 years here's 1967 it's pointing at today remember 22 years [00:40:59 - 00:41:03] 11 years [00:41:03 - 00:41:07] five years [00:41:07 - 00:41:13] now let's stop it and look at it for a minute so we can see how we're doing [00:41:13 - 00:41:39] well it's not so much the last five years it's pointing at today it's that's today and what we've got is two years nine months and 16 days on the screen okay well what's it saying here it's predicted a novel high novelty maxima here here here and then here which we haven't gotten to yet [00:41:39 - 00:41:46] but we've been through all of this so let's see how we're doing [00:41:46 - 00:42:13] okay to the day to the day this high novelty maxima corresponds to the business in Tiananmen Square, not the massacre which is slightly off the trough and up on this side, but the day they put a million people into the square peaceably is right at the bottom of that thing. [00:42:13 - 00:42:26] Well okay so then we know that that ended and happily there was a reassertion of traditional patterns i.e. shooting students what could be more traditional than that. [00:42:26 - 00:42:44] So there was a lot of that and then that sort of peaked out and then there was another try at a novel maxima and at the bottom of this one the Berlin Wall is torn down right at the bottom of this one. [00:42:44 - 00:43:07] So there's two hits in a row. Now you remember that after the Berlin Wall was torn down there were a series of revolutions Czechoslovakia Poland Bulgaria and then finally Romania going over the top and that they became progressively uglier progressively more in the traditional mold meaning costing more life. [00:43:07 - 00:43:20] And that last that week between Christmas and New Year's of last year when the footage was coming in from the radio station in Romania it was fairly grim. [00:43:20 - 00:43:38] Well that was as we went over the peak of this anti novel or or habitual thing. Then we started a long slow meander downward which was fairly gradual and a lot of stuff you know seemed fairly irrelevant to us. [00:43:38 - 00:43:53] It was all about the new German order and the SNL scandal and but then we got to the bottom of this. It's not quite as deep as this but we reached it on the 3rd of August. [00:43:53 - 00:44:06] We reached it when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Now let me see if I know what I'm talking about. Let's see if I can move this arrow a little. [00:44:06 - 00:44:16] Yes there's the 27th of July. At that point they're massed on the border and so forth and then the invasion takes place just a few days later. [00:44:16 - 00:44:25] Well what can we say about the prognosis for the future based on what we're looking at. [00:44:25 - 00:44:28] This concludes side A. [00:44:28 - 00:44:55] [Silence] [00:44:55 - 00:45:13] Well number one I think probably everyone would be advised to stay fairly liquid in their portfolios because this crisis is being very carefully managed but only up to a point. [00:45:13 - 00:45:29] And at that point it goes over the lip and this the Tiananmen Square massacre point is the previously most novel point ever tested in the history of the cosmos. [00:45:29 - 00:45:42] So at some point next late December or early next January we're going to push through that having been on this long slide down. [00:45:42 - 00:45:49] So now so it's not a very good prognosis unless you're in the novelty business. [00:45:49 - 00:46:02] In terms of an absolute prediction what this is saying is that the big change to watch for is around the 20th of November. [00:46:02 - 00:46:12] The elections will be over the week between the end of the and you can tell you can tell you can feel the momentum the inevitability of it. [00:46:12 - 00:46:16] I mean they'll be very hard pressed to hold it together till then. [00:46:16 - 00:46:21] If we focus in there let's take a look at that. [00:46:21 - 00:46:26] See how it ripples. See how at the end it begins to come apart. [00:46:26 - 00:46:35] You can't even tell where the top of the peak is because obviously they just get it all piled up the shipload and shiploads of bombs and gas and all this stuff. [00:46:35 - 00:46:48] And then it rattles out of their control. And then there's a bifurcation of phase split and down she comes. [00:46:48 - 00:46:54] Yeah. November 20th. So then I thought that this was pretty interesting. [00:46:54 - 00:47:00] So then I want to show you something else. I want to completely change our target date and everything. [00:47:00 - 00:47:11] Let's use the command. See. Yes. OK. What we're looking at now is 200 years. [00:47:11 - 00:47:19] And these 200 years are from 499 A.D. Intel 699 A.D. [00:47:19 - 00:47:25] Now why are we looking at these years. Do you remember how in what we were just looking at. [00:47:25 - 00:47:31] I said that we came down that I said that the Berlin Wall was here. [00:47:31 - 00:47:36] The Romanian Revolution was here. Then the S&L crisis and all that. [00:47:36 - 00:47:47] Then Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait here at the bottom of this and that I expected war to break out at the top of this. [00:47:47 - 00:47:53] Now we're looking at the historical resonance of what we were just looking at before. [00:47:53 - 00:48:07] We're looking at a much larger span of time. And what I want to show you is that when we put it close to where Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. [00:48:07 - 00:48:21] That's where he invaded Kuwait. It tells us that the resonant date is 579. The date for the birth of Mohammed is 571. [00:48:21 - 00:48:29] So when you move it to 571. It's only off by that much. [00:48:29 - 00:48:41] So what this means is that this situation in the Middle East we have chosen to confront this guy at a period when the resonance which backs up. [00:48:41 - 00:48:47] What he is doing is the resonance of the birth and career of the prophet himself. [00:48:47 - 00:48:57] Now when you move it over to the war that the date the resonance which corresponds with the 25th of November. [00:48:57 - 00:49:09] It's 599. The Hajira was in 622 down there. And then Mohammed didn't live much longer after that. [00:49:09 - 00:49:13] But the gains of Islam were all put in place. [00:49:13 - 00:49:23] I mean this is the great gradient along which Islam made its major territorial and ideological claims over the last millennium. [00:49:23 - 00:49:31] What does this correspond to in terms of next year? [00:49:31 - 00:49:43] It corresponds to the 30th of March. The 30th of March corresponds to the Hajira and the subsequent death of Mohammed. [00:49:43 - 00:50:02] So what it means is that in the way that history is both a plotted and unconscious process we have managed to stumble into a situation where we will probably be sacrificed to the engine of historical inevitability. [00:50:02 - 00:50:14] It's no moment to confront Islam. I think probably Allah will be very merciful to the armies of the caliph. [00:50:14 - 00:50:22] But you know then there is a faction which is saying oh well so is this the end of the world? Is this Armageddon? No of course not. [00:50:22 - 00:50:31] All this is practically a memory by 1996 or 7 when whole other problems loom. [00:50:31 - 00:50:41] I mean no it's just some kind of crazy military adventure cloaked in the form of a World War II and a half or something. [00:50:41 - 00:50:50] There will be a lot of this stuff if this wave is correct as we move toward the millennium and beyond it. [00:50:50 - 00:51:02] Because you see what's happening is all these historical themes, the birth and expansion of Islam, the rise of medieval Europe, the birth of the machine age, this and so on and so forth. [00:51:02 - 00:51:10] All of this stuff is going to occur in a compressed form between now and 2012 AD. [00:51:10 - 00:51:20] I mean this is my hypothesis. This is the truly odd notion that the mushroom wants to put forth. [00:51:20 - 00:51:27] That the universe is not going to exist for billions or even hundreds of millions of years into the future. [00:51:27 - 00:51:38] That actually the historical process signifies something loose in the informational domain that is very strictly self limiting. [00:51:38 - 00:51:43] And so history doesn't go off millennia into the future. [00:51:43 - 00:51:49] History because of the way in which it feeds back into technological development. [00:51:49 - 00:51:57] History is some kind of self limiting process that transforms the material that it works upon. [00:51:57 - 00:52:05] And the material that it works upon are human lives, human destinies. [00:52:05 - 00:52:12] I would never have come to this idea myself. I mean it's too irrational for me. [00:52:12 - 00:52:18] But when you think you can then once it's articulated make a case for it. [00:52:18 - 00:52:24] I mean after all what is the counter case? What do straight people have to offer? [00:52:24 - 00:52:36] Well what straight people have to offer is that the universe sprang from nothingness in a single instant from an object whose diameter was less than that of a single electron. [00:52:36 - 00:52:42] Well hell if you could buy into that. What couldn't you buy into? [00:52:42 - 00:52:49] It's like the grossest series of imponderabilities and unlikelihoods that you could string together. [00:52:49 - 00:52:56] Yeah. What does happen if you're extrapolate to curve backwards between 30 years before the event? [00:52:56 - 00:53:00] You mean where does this go? You started at six years. [00:53:00 - 00:53:10] What if you had started at 20 years ago? Well, the duration of the wave, it has no excuse me. [00:53:10 - 00:53:16] The wave has no defined physical duration because it's a mathematical entity. [00:53:16 - 00:53:27] It does have convenient break points at 72 billion years and 1.5 billion years. [00:53:27 - 00:53:38] And because we know there are things that have gone on that have take 0.5 billion years but we don't know of anything that's gone on that's taken more than 72 billion years. [00:53:38 - 00:53:45] We've sort of rested with the assumption that 72 billion years is the duration. [00:53:45 - 00:53:51] Do you see how the idea of the resonance works? It works in a very literary fashion. [00:53:51 - 00:53:55] Somewhat in the way that James Joyce wrote Ulysses. [00:53:55 - 00:54:02] You know, Ulysses is the story of a man who seeks to buy kidneys for his breakfast in Dublin. [00:54:02 - 00:54:13] But in so doing he manages to be Ulysses and to visit all the ports of call that are listed and mentioned in the Odyssey. [00:54:13 - 00:54:23] In other words, it's allegory, it's internalization of a scheme of action in one time and place and transferring it to another. [00:54:23 - 00:54:31] But I think that this is how life is really put together and that this is what psychedelics teach you on one level. [00:54:31 - 00:54:42] One way of putting it is Rome falls nine times an hour and you just have to be paying attention nine times an hour to see it go by. [00:54:42 - 00:54:53] And everything else happens nine times an hour and three times a day and once a week and twice a month and four times a year and eight times a millennium and so forth and so on. [00:54:53 - 00:55:09] And we're stacked up inside this system of resonances, historical references, ghosts, scattered mirages, images, the memories of the cause-u-istry of past events. [00:55:09 - 00:55:21] So when you say 2012, I'm sorry, you're saying then we no longer resonate with these other times in the past and you get what they mean by the end of ordinary history? [00:55:21 - 00:55:27] Well, yeah, I sort of fudged. I didn't say what happens in 2012. I don't really know. [00:55:27 - 00:55:41] I imagine it to be this fairly grandiose event that has to do with, you know, how I said the universe is a machine for the conservation of novelty, [00:55:41 - 00:55:48] but that it conserves and produces novelty at an ever faster and faster rate. [00:55:48 - 00:56:02] And that the presence of human history actually indicates that we have entered into what Whitehead called the short epochs, meaning kinds of time that are coherent unto themselves, [00:56:02 - 00:56:12] but that may last only a few centuries or only a few decades, you know, I mean, the way in which the 20th century is a time unto itself. [00:56:12 - 00:56:25] Well, I see this speeding up and speeding up until the point where nobody will be unaware of the fact that the whole space-time continuum is somehow collapsing on itself. [00:56:25 - 00:56:33] It's a fairly literary idea because we're accustomed to thinking of space-time as just sort of hanging around. [00:56:33 - 00:56:49] We're not accustomed to the idea of it migrating toward a point. But I think that the whole human species is involved in birthing some kind of alchemical object or some kind of transcendental something. [00:56:49 - 00:57:03] And that, you know, the reason our history is haunted by messiahs and prophets and wild-eyed characters preaching doom and redemption is because in our dreams, in our visions, [00:57:03 - 00:57:15] we're picking up like 5% seepage from the transcendental object in hyperspace. And it's what gives history a kind of direction. [00:57:15 - 00:57:20] You know, I said that the academic theory of history was that it was a random walk. [00:57:20 - 00:57:25] [inaudible] [00:57:25 - 00:57:35] Yes, and it's giving history a kind of compass so that we keep correcting our course. We're not even aware this is what we're doing. [00:57:35 - 00:57:45] But we are actually stumbling toward and defining into narrower and narrower areas this thing that we're after. [00:57:45 - 00:57:51] And when we finally grab onto it, you know, it'll be wonderful according to me. [00:57:51 - 00:58:01] It'll be the flash-made word or, you know, the year of the jackpot or something like that. [00:58:01 - 00:58:05] So, the year 2012 arrived. Is that what the algorithm pointed toward? [00:58:05 - 00:58:14] Yes, the algorithm pointed toward that in that when we saw it best fit between the curve and the point toward 2012, [00:58:14 - 00:58:21] then what was a good confirmation or, you know, a curious coincidence depending on where you stand, [00:58:21 - 00:58:31] is that the whole Mayan calendrical axis turns out to rotate on the same day, the exact same day. [00:58:31 - 00:58:42] For some reason, the Maya who had a calendar of 5,306 years of 13 baktins, 13 cycles, [00:58:42 - 00:58:50] made the winter solstice of 2012 AD the axis point of their whole calendrical machinery. [00:58:50 - 00:58:59] Now, the only thing I have in common with the Maya is we both have this affiliation with the mushroom. [00:58:59 - 00:59:09] Is it conceivable? It's barely conceivable to me that the message in the mushroom is specific enough [00:59:09 - 00:59:17] that no matter in what time or place you take it, it directs you toward a specific solstice-ial event [00:59:17 - 00:59:21] or a particular annual journey of the planet around the sun. [00:59:21 - 00:59:26] Then the question becomes, you know, well, there are a number of questions, the least of which is, [00:59:26 - 00:59:36] "How did they do this?" And then the major one is, "Why? Why do this? What does it mean to encode a prophecy [00:59:36 - 00:59:43] into a psychedelic plant and then to have people dig it out so close to the attractor event [00:59:43 - 00:59:48] that they're really helpless to do anything other than witness it anyway?" [00:59:48 - 00:59:55] No, this is the stuff of pathology. It fills the back wards of our private mental hospitals. [00:59:55 - 01:00:01] But, you know, something's going on. You just have to wonder. [01:00:01 - 01:00:03] How can one know that? [01:00:03 - 01:00:10] Well, that's a good question. Yes. Why the I Ching, which is what you're asking. [01:00:10 - 01:00:20] Isn't it a little quirky to hang your whole theory on a mathematical sequence derived from an ancient Chinese book of divination? [01:00:20 - 01:00:25] I mean, how dilettante-ish can you get, you know? [01:00:25 - 01:00:33] But the answer is no, because what they were trying to do with the I Ching was they were trying to create [01:00:33 - 01:00:42] a general topology of categories or a general typographic list of temporal categories. [01:00:42 - 01:00:50] And the way they did it was by looking into their minds, by stilling overt physiological functions [01:00:50 - 01:01:00] like breathing and heartbeat, and looking into their minds and seeing phenomena which we might call mental, [01:01:00 - 01:01:05] which they might call physical, which somebody else might call quantum mechanical. [01:01:05 - 01:01:10] But the ontological status of this phenomena is not ultimately what's important. [01:01:10 - 01:01:18] What's important is that careful observation be carried out on it and that it be correctly categorized. [01:01:18 - 01:01:27] And what they saw was the organizational rules of time itself. [01:01:27 - 01:01:38] What put me on to the idea that this was not so strange was I noticed a year or so ago I was looking at sand dunes. [01:01:38 - 01:01:44] And I noticed that sand dunes look like wind. [01:01:44 - 01:01:50] And this is a fairly trivial observation, except for me it wasn't because I'd never thought it before. [01:01:50 - 01:01:55] I mean, this always is tugging at the edge of your mind when you look at sand dunes. [01:01:55 - 01:02:00] It wasn't overt. Okay, sand dunes look like wind. What does this mean? [01:02:00 - 01:02:11] It means that a physical phenomenon, sand dunes, takes its form from its interaction against a wave mechanical phenomenon [01:02:11 - 01:02:16] to wit the pressure fluctuation of wind over time. [01:02:16 - 01:02:22] And I said, "Aha, so sand dune looks like wind because it was made by wind." [01:02:22 - 01:02:31] So then I said, "Well then, everything in the world bears the signature of the time wave within it [01:02:31 - 01:02:36] because everything in the world arose within the context of time." [01:02:36 - 01:02:44] So, you know, it's no more odd that we have within ourselves the time wave [01:02:44 - 01:02:48] than that pebbles are round from being rolled in the ocean. [01:02:48 - 01:02:59] It's just the consequence of being in time is to carry the signature of what time is etched upon you, within you. [01:02:59 - 01:03:07] And so these Taoist yogas or proto-Taoist yogas were looking at the organization of mind [01:03:07 - 01:03:16] and seeing the archetype of organization itself because mind is some kind of fractal energy phenomenon [01:03:16 - 01:03:22] that arises within the larger fractal context of organic nature, [01:03:22 - 01:03:28] which arises within the fractal context of electromagnetic forces or whatever. [01:03:28 - 01:03:38] So it's what starts out looking like a miracle that the Qing Wen sequence could have a magical wave inside it [01:03:38 - 01:03:47] that would describe human history, ends up looking like a kind of unavoidable and trivial fact writ large [01:03:47 - 01:03:56] over the face of all existence, that all objects in time have internalized within themselves images [01:03:56 - 01:04:01] of the larger process in which they are embedded. [01:04:01 - 01:04:06] Yes, there are sequences other than Qing Wen, right? [01:04:06 - 01:04:12] Yes, there are sequences other than Qing Wen and there are systems other than this. [01:04:12 - 01:04:15] And I think it's a growth thing. [01:04:15 - 01:04:27] We're trying to see pattern and no pattern is wrong, but no pattern is all of the pattern, at least not yet. [01:04:27 - 01:04:34] One of the quotes that I'm fond of using vis-a-vis this and the psychedelic experience [01:04:34 - 01:04:39] is something that Alfred North Whitehead said about understanding. [01:04:39 - 01:04:45] He said, "Understanding is apperception of pattern as such." [01:04:45 - 01:04:48] That's all. As such. [01:04:48 - 01:04:53] So if you look at this room and you look at women and where they're seated, [01:04:53 - 01:04:57] you learn something about the people in this room. [01:04:57 - 01:05:00] There's a pattern to how the women are seated. [01:05:00 - 01:05:06] If on the other hand you look at the pattern of people who wear glasses, that's a different pattern. [01:05:06 - 01:05:09] It also tells you something about the room. [01:05:09 - 01:05:14] And there is just pattern upon pattern upon pattern of people with blue eyes, [01:05:14 - 01:05:19] where the Jews are sitting, where the Irish are sitting, the older people, the younger people. [01:05:19 - 01:05:24] There's no limit to the number of patterns that can be extracted from a situation [01:05:24 - 01:05:31] and each one somehow gives us more control over the situation. [01:05:31 - 01:05:36] So what this is, is the pattern to process. [01:05:36 - 01:05:45] We know that there's a pattern to process because we have a very simple model like this in English and in most languages. [01:05:45 - 01:05:52] It's that most of us agree that most things have a beginning, a middle and an end. [01:05:52 - 01:05:56] And if we're in the beginning, we look for the middle. [01:05:56 - 01:05:59] If we've passed the middle, we're looking out for the end. [01:05:59 - 01:06:02] This means we have a theory of process. [01:06:02 - 01:06:09] And in a way, when you look at history's fractal mountain, it looks like the single discharge of a nerve. [01:06:09 - 01:06:12] All it is is a beginning, a middle and an end. [01:06:12 - 01:06:18] And process can probably be broken down to that simple a level. [01:06:18 - 01:06:23] But then, of course, as William Blake said, attend the minute particulars. [01:06:23 - 01:06:25] It's all in the details. [01:06:25 - 01:06:30] This is what psychedelics teach, I think, is it's all in the details. [01:06:30 - 01:06:32] Getting there is half the fun. [01:06:32 - 01:06:42] The experience of life is in the fabric of it, you know, the actual tactility of the passing moment. [01:06:42 - 01:06:43] Yeah. [01:06:43 - 01:06:46] What does the pattern look like between now and 2012? [01:06:46 - 01:06:53] Well, between now and 2012, let me see if I'm still together enough to get such a thing together. [01:06:53 - 01:06:55] Is there something correlated with astrology? [01:06:55 - 01:06:58] Oh, yeah. Different people have looked at it. [01:06:58 - 01:07:01] Let's see. Specify target date. [01:07:01 - 01:07:11] Let's say the first month, the first day of 1995. [01:07:11 - 01:07:15] Let's say of 2000. [01:07:15 - 01:07:19] OK, and we're over here. We're poised up here. [01:07:19 - 01:07:23] See, we're about to make the big descent. [01:07:23 - 01:07:31] This will give you an idea. This was a good one to look at because this book gives us the perspective. [01:07:31 - 01:07:36] Because it's hellish. Now there is the OK, that's January, February. [01:07:36 - 01:07:39] That's the second of March, January, February. [01:07:39 - 01:07:41] That's the second of February. [01:07:41 - 01:07:46] February 1992. That's when all of this stuff is maximized. [01:07:46 - 01:07:48] It's a long way in the future. [01:07:48 - 01:07:56] All of 91 C is down along here where we are now. [01:07:56 - 01:08:01] Well, there's the projected date when the war goes over the hump. [01:08:01 - 01:08:05] We're down here. 9/29/90. [01:08:05 - 01:08:17] But approaching this extremely low level of this huge expansion of the power of Islam and probably not so much good for America and the American banking industry. [01:08:17 - 01:08:21] But then we have to live through all of this stuff. [01:08:21 - 01:08:30] A huge series of fluctuations well past the turn of the century before finally we get on the long slide. [01:08:30 - 01:08:35] And, you know, it's fairly spectacular. [01:08:35 - 01:08:44] It's an effort to explain the sense of time speeding up the sense of the acceleration and into deeper and deeper connectedness. [01:08:44 - 01:08:48] It obviously can't go on for centuries. [01:08:48 - 01:08:52] It has to halt at some time in the past. [01:08:52 - 01:09:04] But what our attention is going to be riveted on for the next little while is this because this is the deepest level of novelty ever explored to date. [01:09:04 - 01:09:09] There's where we are on the 10th of January. [01:09:09 - 01:09:16] Having come from clear up here as recently as the 25th of November. [01:09:16 - 01:09:28] Where is the, if we go now to the very student, Bahamut's Bird, then where do we end up in 2021? [01:09:28 - 01:09:30] 2012? [01:09:30 - 01:09:33] Oh, well, then it all comes together. [01:09:33 - 01:09:46] See, I mean, like in late 2011, we cross over into a 384 day period in which all these themes are recondensed again. [01:09:46 - 01:09:53] See, here it shows that what we're progressing through, we still have to go through the medieval period. [01:09:53 - 01:09:58] We'll do that in 96, 97. [01:09:58 - 01:10:06] The discovery of the new world occurs up here in 2005. [01:10:06 - 01:10:12] And then, you know, the Industrial Revolution, 2009, so forth and so on. [01:10:12 - 01:10:16] So it's a very steep compression. [01:10:16 - 01:10:27] And then the way it works, actually, is when you get into these final epochs, you get a 384 day cycle in which everything is recompressed. [01:10:27 - 01:10:36] Then a six day cycle and then, you know, a cycle that lasts an hour and a half and one that lasts 135 seconds and so forth. [01:10:36 - 01:10:39] And it's the spin busy principle. [01:10:39 - 01:10:51] It's exactly the principle that's used to explain the birth of the universe by straight people, except they put it all back in the first half nanosecond of the universe. [01:10:51 - 01:10:53] And I want to put it at the end. [01:10:53 - 01:11:00] And the reason mine seems more logical to me is what we're talking about here is an outlandish singularity. [01:11:00 - 01:11:06] Well, they say the singularity sprang from empty space. [01:11:06 - 01:11:14] Seems to me the least likely medium for a complex singularity to emerge from is a high vacuum. [01:11:14 - 01:11:24] More likely that a singularity would emerge from a teeming world of human beings and machines and psychedelic drugs and jungles and ecosystems. [01:11:24 - 01:11:34] And that in a super rich informational matrix like that, something might suddenly crystallize out that would be absolutely improbable. [01:11:34 - 01:11:44] And and fulfill the need for an attractor, a vector for novelty. [01:11:44 - 01:11:59] Yeah. Well, the way the software is set, it's set for the Dawn Line at La Churrera in the Amazon, which is also the Dawn Line for New York City. [01:11:59 - 01:12:15] When we were doing our most crazed thinking on this subject, the fantasy was that it would take 24 hours for it then that it would follow, as you call it, the Dawn Line, the terminator of the planet. [01:12:15 - 01:12:27] So that as the sun rose, it was hypothesized to have something to do with actually the geomagnetic strum or what we call the heliomagnetic strum of the star. [01:12:27 - 01:12:36] And so as the sun rose over a 24 hour period, this implosion would occur. [01:12:36 - 01:12:46] It's interesting. I don't understand this theory in the sense that it seems to me it should be fairly easy to overthrow. [01:12:46 - 01:12:51] It's making such highly punctuated predictions. [01:12:51 - 01:13:02] It's not fudging its bets with a smooth curve. And yet the attacks upon it have been unbelievably weak. [01:13:02 - 01:13:11] It seems but but yet it's a curious thing. It's very hard to imagine how anyone could, quote unquote, figure this out. [01:13:11 - 01:13:17] It seems that you would have to find it all at once done somehow. [01:13:17 - 01:13:22] There's no way into it where you could start to figure it out. [01:13:22 - 01:13:32] So it has this curious completedness. And as a person who was not even that interested in the I Ching and certainly less interested in diddling around with graph paper, [01:13:32 - 01:13:41] that I should be the John the Baptist of this new dispensation is pretty peculiar. [01:13:41 - 01:13:44] I'm not even in the long division. [01:13:44 - 01:13:56] When you were when you were balancing out various factors, it is testing out the theory of fractal time. [01:13:56 - 01:14:03] You can talk about the spread of Islam and its growth of poetry and the science and so forth. [01:14:03 - 01:14:05] But I really mentioned the inquisition. [01:14:05 - 01:14:11] One of the strengths and weaknesses of the theory is that it's pretty nonspecific. [01:14:11 - 01:14:17] You know, maybe astrology tries to say too much. Maybe this tries to say too little. [01:14:17 - 01:14:24] But the inquisition happened down. Well, actually, it was stretched out over time. [01:14:24 - 01:14:28] So it depends on what you're actually talking about. [01:14:28 - 01:14:38] But the great novel century, the 15th century, the fourteen hundreds occurs along this gradient. [01:14:38 - 01:14:50] Yeah. Novelty is a kind of morally neutral term. I mean, is an invading army raping and pillaging and mixing its genes with the local populace? [01:14:50 - 01:14:56] Is this come out as a plus or a minus on the novelty scale? [01:14:56 - 01:15:04] I don't know. I confess I'm puzzled by this. It's a pretty powerful concept. [01:15:04 - 01:15:11] I mean, I think we do feel in our own lives the ebb and flow of this quality. [01:15:11 - 01:15:15] And that when it's, you know, when you're hot, you're hot. When you're not, you're not. [01:15:15 - 01:15:17] That's what that's saying. Yeah. [01:15:17 - 01:15:25] When you were talking earlier about novelty and shell lake and novelty versus habit, there was the upswings on this graph. [01:15:25 - 01:15:33] I heard you describe this sort of conservatively and the downswings were novelty and new things happening. [01:15:33 - 01:15:38] New things like people in this room generally would like. That's how I was hearing it. [01:15:38 - 01:15:41] Oh, new things like generally people in this room would like. No. [01:15:41 - 01:15:44] Things that orient themselves towards two things. [01:15:44 - 01:15:53] Oh, no, I don't think so. I think a world war here will do just fine to fulfill the novelty requirements of the situation. [01:15:53 - 01:16:03] What amazed me about it was when I was sitting up here after the Romanian Revolution and looking at this hole here, [01:16:03 - 01:16:11] I was saying, boy, something outlandish is going to have to happen or we're going to have to toss this sucker right out the door. [01:16:11 - 01:16:20] Well, then, lo and behold, you know, with this weird sense of deja vu and startled amazement and yet vindication, [01:16:20 - 01:16:29] yet horror and disbelief and so forth, it all comes to pass. It fulfills an impossible prophecy. [01:16:29 - 01:16:34] How many times can it do it? Check this out. We've got to get through this. [01:16:34 - 01:16:45] But this thing occurs over a three month period in 1995 from March to May of 1995. [01:16:45 - 01:16:54] We have to undergo dissent into novelty that makes what we've been through and are going to go through look like peanuts. [01:16:54 - 01:17:05] So there are built in tests in the wave so that if it's junk, we should be able to get rid of it long before we're anywhere near 2012. [01:17:05 - 01:17:15] And yet we're meeting now the first of these difficult tests, the first prediction of a steep dissent into radical novelty. [01:17:15 - 01:17:22] And, you know, the armies and chancellories of the world are just rushing furiously to fulfill the prophecy. [01:17:22 - 01:17:32] Well, except that that's a kind of a fart at the opera. [01:17:32 - 01:17:43] If what you believe is happening is a conservation of novelty and knitting together and ever deepening and enriching and connecting kind of thing, [01:17:43 - 01:17:51] and then they drop the bomb, the only way that could redeem it is if, you know, our real destiny is in another dimension. [01:17:51 - 01:18:01] And sort of like that wonderful scene at the end of Doctor Strangelove where they sing the song, we'll meet again someday somewhere. [01:18:01 - 01:18:07] I don't think it is nuclear holocaust. I think nuclear holocaust is the shadow of the Alcab. [01:18:07 - 01:18:17] It is, you know, somehow a way of coaxing the human soul into physical manifestation. [01:18:17 - 01:18:30] I mean, the flying saucer, the extraterrestrial visitant, the philosopher's stone, alchemical mercury to really realize our dreams. [01:18:30 - 01:18:36] I mean, I think that that is really the promise of the psychedelic experience. [01:18:36 - 01:18:53] The thing you find out at the core of the psychedelic experience that you cannot believe no matter how hard you try because it's so liberating is that, you know, dreams are real, apparently. [01:18:53 - 01:19:00] History, there is a way out. It isn't the high walls, all that. It's an illusion. [01:19:00 - 01:19:08] There's some tremendous act of intellectual apprehension or courage or something, and then you break through. [01:19:08 - 01:19:14] You penetrate beyond the mask. There is a mask. There is a beyond the mask. [01:19:14 - 01:19:20] But most people go to the grave without ever even making the effort. [01:19:20 - 01:19:23] Yeah. [01:19:23 - 01:19:36] Have you tried superimposing it on any other phenomenon like art, like the E.H.D. or cosmoscopy that you used or anything that you could form? [01:19:36 - 01:19:46] Yeah, I mean, the way I think of it is all phenomena are describable within this wave matrix. [01:19:46 - 01:19:56] And when I was at my most illuminated or loaded or however you want to put it, I could actually see it overlaid over reality. [01:19:56 - 01:20:06] I could actually see that people, people are knots of novelty in local genetic space. [01:20:06 - 01:20:16] The local space is largely empty, and then there are these knots of space time where genetic expression and protein transcription is going on. [01:20:16 - 01:20:22] And these are people and they represent this extreme compresses of novelty. [01:20:22 - 01:20:33] Well, then if you're in a city or something, you see that it is a larger, yet more diffuse knot of the same kind of novelty. [01:20:33 - 01:20:45] And, you know, I don't know whether you're losing your mind or assimilating a wave mechanical way of looking at things, but this is very it comes close almost to some of the ravings of Carlos Castaneda. [01:20:45 - 01:20:51] You know, that there's a way of shifting perception and processing information. [01:20:51 - 01:21:06] And then you see that, you know, people are interlocking networks of light. They are confluences of cause, the history, both in space and time, as well as in matter. [01:21:06 - 01:21:13] And no, I was quite into all of this. And it sort of sticks with me. It's model building. [01:21:13 - 01:21:25] Yeah. Yeah. [01:21:25 - 01:21:29] Well, it's rigid on one level and free on another. [01:21:29 - 01:21:36] What's rigid about this is that it says where the novelty will occur. [01:21:36 - 01:21:52] What's open about it is it never says what the novelty will be so that, you know, Saddam Hussein could probably avert a world war by just announcing that he's going on a world ballet tour. [01:21:52 - 01:22:01] And that would be so novel that the wave would be fulfilled and the war averted and his touring ballet company. [01:22:01 - 01:22:09] What he could be assassinated, although that isn't in his situation, that wouldn't exactly be absolutely startling. [01:22:09 - 01:22:13] It would be a fairly traditional pattern asserting itself. But you're right. [01:22:13 - 01:22:22] Assassinations are interesting because the history comes to such a micro pivot there. [01:22:22 - 01:22:31] I find assassinations very interesting. They're very little wear and tear on innocent people. You'll notice. [01:22:31 - 01:22:42] That's why it's so little favored as a way of settling political problems. [01:22:42 - 01:22:53] But I have a German correspondent who is taking this between the teeth and run with it. And he sent me a bunch of assassination printouts on a scale of 30 days. [01:22:53 - 01:22:59] The assassination of John F. Kennedy, Wallenstein, Himmler, a bunch of people. [01:22:59 - 01:23:07] And there, you know, it's tantalizing. I mean, I don't know what to make of this. [01:23:07 - 01:23:20] It's reasonable that large scale phenomena like history, like glaciations would be under the control of recursive laws, algorithmically expressible laws. [01:23:20 - 01:23:26] The hard swallow is to think that you've actually figured one out, you know, and that this is it. [01:23:26 - 01:23:32] And that to the exclusion of all other values, these values somehow define it. [01:23:32 - 01:23:47] But I think that thinking of history as a novelty conserving journey of return to the green mind is a much more helpful, [01:23:47 - 01:23:57] existentially anchoring notion than to think of it as a chaotic, trendless fluctuation toward self-immolation. [01:23:57 - 01:24:08] You know, just a drunken person wandering around in a dynamite storage area, which is sort of the other model being peddled. [01:24:08 - 01:24:15] Because I believe that there is a purpose, that there is some kind of telos working its way out. [01:24:15 - 01:24:23] I don't get all dewy-eyed about it. I don't even know why or what for. [01:24:23 - 01:24:31] But I just know that statistical models of how human reality works are completely inadequate. [01:24:31 - 01:24:41] I mean, the way most people experience magic in their lives is through the phenomenon of falling in love. [01:24:41 - 01:24:46] And it's highly statistically improbable the way it works. [01:24:46 - 01:24:56] I mean, you know, you can be the guy who sweeps up in the mail room and every day you see the boss's daughter alight in her Rolls Royce [01:24:56 - 01:25:01] to be swept into the executive suite or some nonsense like that. [01:25:01 - 01:25:14] And by merely forming the wish to be with this woman, you know, then coincidences begin to move, promotions occur, deaths occur, [01:25:14 - 01:25:24] mountains are moved and before you know it, you know, the princess is delivered unto your arms, for better or worse, one might add. [01:25:24 - 01:25:32] I mean, you need to be very careful about what you wish for because you usually get it. [01:25:32 - 01:25:41] The rule about wishing seems to be it's kind of a quantum mechanical process and no jerking is allowed. [01:25:41 - 01:25:46] The key to having your wishes fulfilled is slow, steady pressure. [01:25:46 - 01:25:53] You know, and if you can hold an image for two or three years, it hardly matters how outlandish it is. [01:25:53 - 01:26:01] It will probably be delivered unto you in fairly good order. [01:26:01 - 01:26:08] Start by this one, micro macro. [01:26:08 - 01:26:15] Yeah, but this goes right down from the level of Planck's constant right up to the size of the universe. [01:26:15 - 01:26:26] And it's saying the same patterns, the same processes are recursive and are nested and basically the all rightness of everything. [01:26:26 - 01:26:31] Because what it shows is, you know, this is a fairly chaotic wave. [01:26:31 - 01:26:44] It looks stochastic, but it's manipulated in such a way that out of its disorder emerges a very elegant, self reinforcing, self refining order. [01:26:44 - 01:26:46] And that's what I see in the universe. [01:26:46 - 01:27:00] The universe is the same kind of thing, saving novelty, refining connectedness, streamlining itself for further journey into time. [01:27:00 - 01:27:05] Well, that's enough of that, I think. [01:27:05 - 01:27:09] Please continue to tape 6.