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[00:00:04 - 00:00:08]	 All right. Can you hear in the back?
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[00:00:10 - 00:00:15]	 Yeah, is the sound comfortable for everyone?
[00:00:15 - 00:00:19]	 Is the light comfortable for everyone?
[00:00:19 - 00:00:23]	 And are you comfortable?
[00:00:23 - 00:00:29]	 Well, you shouldn't be. The planet's going to shit in a handbag.
[00:00:29 - 00:00:33]	 No, that's just my John Lilly imitation.
[00:00:33 - 00:00:39]	 Not me at all. I'll circulate these now.
[00:00:39 - 00:00:44]	 If you're interested in an intensive rainforest
[00:00:44 - 00:00:50]	 ethnopsychobotany intensive at Palenque in the state of Chiapas
[00:00:50 - 00:00:56]	 next January, why? And you haven't gotten one of those.
[00:00:56 - 00:01:02]	 There it is. And then that gets the hype out of the way right at the beginning.
[00:01:02 - 00:01:15]	 So, most of you were probably at the talk I gave yesterday. Is that basically safe to assume?
[00:01:15 - 00:01:23]	 Yeah. So, I thought today I would talk a little bit and then
[00:01:23 - 00:01:27]	 I think these things are much more interesting for me
[00:01:27 - 00:01:34]	 if they're interactive and people bring all kinds of agendas to these things.
[00:01:34 - 00:01:39]	 And I don't know whether people want to talk philosophy or recipes.
[00:01:39 - 00:01:51]	 I don't know whether they want to talk politics or, you know, share experiences.
[00:01:51 - 00:01:58]	 So, I want to just in order to make sure we all understand the domain
[00:01:58 - 00:02:07]	 we're operating from here, I would like to talk a little bit about what it's like to be loaded
[00:02:07 - 00:02:15]	 in because I think that's the ground zero of what we're talking about.
[00:02:16 - 00:02:23]	 Psychedelics are like any other social phenomena. There are a lot of wannabes.
[00:02:23 - 00:02:30]	 There are a lot of people who are along for the ride. I'm sure the pagan community is no stranger
[00:02:30 - 00:02:38]	 to this phenomenon because there are certain residual spin offs if you proclaim yourself pagan
[00:02:38 - 00:02:45]	 that are hard to obtain any other way. Similarly for being psychedelic.
[00:02:46 - 00:02:56]	 So, some of you have heard me do this before, but it's a personal thing and yet it's a general thing.
[00:02:56 - 00:03:04]	 My notion of the psychedelic cosmogony, if you want to think of it that way,
[00:03:04 - 00:03:13]	 is it's like a bullseye. It's like a series of concentric circles and various substances
[00:03:13 - 00:03:24]	 place you in various quadrants of that mandala at various distances from ground zero,
[00:03:24 - 00:03:34]	 which is at the absolute center. And nature in her bounty has provided various coordination points.
[00:03:35 - 00:03:46]	 I mean, there's the cannabis coordination point, the opiate coordination point, the tropanes that
[00:03:46 - 00:03:53]	 were so important in European witchcraft, the solanaceous plants, hyalcimene, those things.
[00:03:53 - 00:04:04]	 That's a different chemical family and a different group of plant families that these compounds
[00:04:04 - 00:04:18]	 occur in. And I've been at this fairly steadily since 1964 and have tried to do everything with
[00:04:18 - 00:04:30]	 a certain level of attention and reverence because I think that it's all very fine to go armed with
[00:04:30 - 00:04:40]	 the knowledge of pharmacology, dose response, LD50 and all that. But I think as pagans and magicians,
[00:04:40 - 00:04:50]	 we really understand that the mind can do anything. And there's a horribly frightening
[00:04:50 - 00:04:59]	 little passage in Jung somewhere where he says, "The unconscious has a thousand ways to terminate
[00:04:59 - 00:05:06]	 a life that has become meaningless." Meaning, you'll step in front of a streetcar or something.
[00:05:06 - 00:05:17]	 So in my lifetime of looking at these things and being interested in many other things as well,
[00:05:19 - 00:05:29]	 heresies, obscure backwaters of art history and literature,
[00:05:29 - 00:05:40]	 peculiar philosophies that rose and fell centuries ago in obscure parts of the world.
[00:05:40 - 00:05:51]	 My theory of life exploration is to run edges. And I've mellowed over the years that I used to say,
[00:05:51 - 00:05:58]	 "If a book isn't a hundred years old, you shouldn't read it. If a person isn't dead,
[00:05:58 - 00:06:04]	 you shouldn't worry about them. If they wrote in English, you shouldn't bother with them."
[00:06:06 - 00:06:18]	 So forth and so on. In the course of sorting out as many peculiar and bizarre possibilities
[00:06:18 - 00:06:30]	 that life could offer me in many places, my attitude was always critical. My attitude was
[00:06:30 - 00:06:39]	 always a show me attitude. I don't believe in faith. I don't believe in belief. My favorite
[00:06:39 - 00:06:48]	 gospel story is the story of the apostle Thomas, who was not present when Christ came the first
[00:06:48 - 00:06:57]	 time after the resurrection to the upper room. And then later Thomas came to the apostles and they
[00:06:57 - 00:07:05]	 said, "The master has been here." And he said, "You guys have been smoking too much of that red lab."
[00:07:05 - 00:07:14]	 And then Christ came again. But in this conversation with the apostles, Thomas said,
[00:07:14 - 00:07:23]	 "Unless I put my hand into the wound, I will not believe it." And then time passed and then Christ
[00:07:23 - 00:07:34]	 came again to the upper room. And he said, "Thomas, come forward. Put your hand into the wound."
[00:07:34 - 00:07:40]	 And he did. And then he said, "Lord, I am not worthy." So forth and so on. My conclusion about
[00:07:40 - 00:07:53]	 this story is that alone among all humanity in all times and places, only one person ever touched
[00:07:53 - 00:08:03]	 the incorporeal body of God. Thomas the doubter touched because he doubted. It was not necessary
[00:08:03 - 00:08:12]	 that the believers should be vouchsafed such a boon, but the doubter was awarded the supreme
[00:08:14 - 00:08:26]	 enlightenment. Okay, so much for that. So my thing has always been whether you present me with a diet,
[00:08:26 - 00:08:37]	 a social arrangement, society, a sexual conundrum, a work of art, my criteria is, is it shit or is it
[00:08:37 - 00:08:50]	 Shinola? And I'm happy to give you the benefit of my personal life's experience proceeding along
[00:08:50 - 00:09:00]	 those lines. I want to talk about what to my mind is the quintessential phallus senogen and
[00:09:00 - 00:09:11]	 consequently the quintessential spiritual and magical tool of this dimension. And that is DMT,
[00:09:11 - 00:09:21]	 dimethyltryptamine, a compound that occurs in the human nervous system. It occurs in many,
[00:09:21 - 00:09:31]	 many plants. It is the commonest phallus senogen in all of nature. And I don't know how you got
[00:09:31 - 00:09:46]	 to where you are this afternoon, but the way I got here is by testing and by hoping and by pursuing
[00:09:46 - 00:09:55]	 a magical, that's the word, a miraculous, a transcendental ideal that over the course of life
[00:09:55 - 00:10:04]	 experience strips from you. You know, you have to get a job. Your first love is not your last love.
[00:10:04 - 00:10:15]	 Slowly, this pristine, shining belief in perfectibility is eroded by the swings and
[00:10:15 - 00:10:23]	 arrows of outrageous fortune. You know, the dark oxen that turn the millstones of the world.
[00:10:23 - 00:10:36]	 But I'm here to tell you that it is real. There is a doorway into another dimension.
[00:10:36 - 00:10:48]	 Aladdin's land is real. Fairyland is real. Magic is real in the most real sense,
[00:10:48 - 00:10:58]	 in the same sense that what we call reality is real. And I learned this
[00:11:00 - 00:11:10]	 through this compound. And one of the great puzzles about this compound is why more people
[00:11:10 - 00:11:23]	 don't know about it. No, no brotherhood initiated me. No lineage reaching back to the fall of
[00:11:23 - 00:11:34]	 Atlantis brought me into its circle. Therefore, I feel completely free to say anything I want.
[00:11:34 - 00:11:41]	 Nobody has ever come to me and said, you are spilling the beans. You are telling the secret.
[00:11:41 - 00:11:48]	 A long, long time ago, and you know, we all have different opinions. This is mine.
[00:11:49 - 00:12:00]	 I hope it doesn't offend. But a long, long time ago, I took an oath to tell all secrets that came
[00:12:00 - 00:12:10]	 my way. Don't tell me a secret. I won't keep it. I'm against secrets. I'm against hierarchies,
[00:12:10 - 00:12:19]	 lineages, all assumption of special knowledge on the part of anyone in the presence of anyone
[00:12:19 - 00:12:24]	 else is abhorrent to me. I mean, I am a true anarchist, first and foremost.
[00:12:24 - 00:12:39]	 So, DMT, like all things in this world, has a physical body, a presence and a presentation.
[00:12:39 - 00:12:49]	 In this case, it looks rather like earwax. It is orange. It is crystalline. It smells vaguely of
[00:12:49 - 00:13:02]	 mothballs. And for my money, it is the lapis, the quintessence, the universal panacea at the end of
[00:13:02 - 00:13:11]	 time has sent a reflection back through the temporal labyrinth. And wherever this touches,
[00:13:11 - 00:13:21]	 wherever this compresses, the mystery is fully present. So, what is it then? Well, it's an
[00:13:21 - 00:13:30]	 experience. And I maintain it's the most intense experience you can have this side of the yawning
[00:13:30 - 00:13:39]	 grave without doubt. I mean, people say, is it dangerous? Well, the answer is only if you fear
[00:13:39 - 00:13:53]	 death by astonishment. Yes, that's a joke here. It's not a joke there because you find yourself
[00:13:53 - 00:14:00]	 literally holding your heart to verify that you have not in fact had a coronary thrombosis
[00:14:00 - 00:14:10]	 induced by wonder, terror, reverence and astonishment. So, here it is, the quintessence,
[00:14:10 - 00:14:18]	 the orange thing. Was it transponded in from Arturus? Was it handed down through some
[00:14:19 - 00:14:27]	 ancient Eldritch brotherhood that found this secret before the pyramids were built? Who can
[00:14:27 - 00:14:35]	 say? Whatever it is, wherever it comes from, here's what happens when you allow it to pass through
[00:14:35 - 00:14:43]	 the blood-brain barrier of your own alchemical vessel, which is your body.
[00:14:45 - 00:14:53]	 The first thing that happens is that there is a sense as though all the air in the room
[00:14:53 - 00:15:02]	 had been sucked out. All the colors brighten. This is that increase in visual acuity that I made so
[00:15:02 - 00:15:12]	 much of yesterday. All edges become sharp. Distant things stand out in their clarity. This is at one
[00:15:12 - 00:15:23]	 toke. At two tokes, you close your eyes, you feel a sense of anesthesia seeping through your body.
[00:15:23 - 00:15:31]	 You close your eyes and you see a floral pattern rotating in space, usually yellow-orange.
[00:15:31 - 00:15:39]	 People who do this occasionally, and nobody does it a lot, call it the chrysanthemum.
[00:15:41 - 00:15:48]	 It's a floral pattern, like a pattern in a Chinese brocade. This forms and stabilizes,
[00:15:48 - 00:15:56]	 and then you either break through it or you require one more toke.
[00:15:56 - 00:16:06]	 These are matters of physiology, shamanic intent, so forth and so on. The leather lung hash smokers
[00:16:06 - 00:16:13]	 among us have a leg up in this department. This is a spiritual discipline where the ability not
[00:16:13 - 00:16:20]	 to cough makes the difference between shunyata and try again sand.
[00:16:20 - 00:16:35]	 So you take, let us assume, a third toke, long and slow, through a glass pipe. You vaporize this stuff.
[00:16:35 - 00:16:41]	 You don't mix it with weed or oregano or any of that, which was done in the past. You want the
[00:16:41 - 00:16:50]	 pure stuff, and you take it in and in and in, and there is definitely somewhere in here a threshold,
[00:16:50 - 00:17:00]	 a threshold which you must exceed. And when you do that, this membrane-like thing, this chrysanthemum,
[00:17:00 - 00:17:09]	 will actually part, and there is a sound like the crumpling of a plastic bread wrapper or the
[00:17:09 - 00:17:17]	 crackling of flame. A friend of mine says this is the radio intellect key of your soul exiting through
[00:17:17 - 00:17:27]	 the anterior fontanelle at the top of your head. Could be. In any case, this crackling sound and a
[00:17:27 - 00:17:44]	 tone, a tone, a [sound] and then there's this impression of transition, and you're now 20
[00:17:44 - 00:17:51]	 seconds deep into this experience. There's an impression of transition. It's as though there
[00:17:51 - 00:18:01]	 were a series of tunnels or chambers that you are tumbling down, being propelled by some kind of
[00:18:01 - 00:18:08]	 muscle behind you that is pushing you. I mean, yes, earth canal, yes, yes, of course. But anyway,
[00:18:08 - 00:18:17]	 a tunnel, and what I've noticed about this tunnel is the walls and ceiling flux and come down to
[00:18:17 - 00:18:26]	 meet each other and where they touch, they pull apart with a [sound] and then you're propelled
[00:18:26 - 00:18:33]	 into the next space and then the next and then the next and there is this [sound]
[00:18:42 - 00:18:50]	 Right. And then you are there. And this is what I want to talk to you about because of all
[00:18:50 - 00:19:00]	 communities, I hope, perhaps collectively, someone can say something enlightening about this.
[00:19:00 - 00:19:10]	 Then you are there and where is there? It's underground. How you know this, you cannot say,
[00:19:10 - 00:19:18]	 but there is an irreconcilable sense of enormous mass surrounding you. In other words, you are
[00:19:18 - 00:19:27]	 underground. You're at the center of a mountain or something and you're in a room which aficionados
[00:19:27 - 00:19:36]	 call the dome and people will ask each other, did you see the dome? Were you there? It's softly lit,
[00:19:36 - 00:19:47]	 indirectly lit and the walls, such they be, are crawling with geometric hallucinations,
[00:19:47 - 00:19:57]	 very brightly colored, very iridescent with deep seams and very high reflective surfaces.
[00:19:57 - 00:20:04]	 Everything is machine-like and polished and throbbing with energy, but that is not
[00:20:04 - 00:20:13]	 what immediately arrests my attention. What arrests my attention is the fact that this space
[00:20:13 - 00:20:23]	 is inhabited, that the immediate impression as you break into it is there is a cheer.
[00:20:23 - 00:20:28]	 The gnomes have learned a new way to say hooray.
[00:20:33 - 00:20:40]	 You break in to this space and are immediately swarmed by squeaking,
[00:20:40 - 00:20:50]	 self-transforming elf machines. These things which are made of light and grammar and sound
[00:20:50 - 00:20:59]	 that come chirping and squealing and tumbling towards you and they say hooray, welcome, you're
[00:20:59 - 00:21:14]	 here and in my case you send so many, you come so rarely. And my immediate impression, no matter
[00:21:14 - 00:21:20]	 how many times I do this and I've done it maybe 30 or 40 times, which isn't a lot in a lifetime of
[00:21:20 - 00:21:31]	 worshiping it, my immediate impression is that they are welcoming. There is something going on
[00:21:31 - 00:21:42]	 which I over the years come to call love, l-u-v, not life utility vehicle, but love that is not like
[00:21:43 - 00:21:51]	 heroes or not like sexual attraction. I don't know what it's like exactly. It's almost like a
[00:21:51 - 00:21:59]	 physical thing. It's like a glue that pours out into this space and my immediate impression in
[00:21:59 - 00:22:07]	 there is I'm appalled. I'm appalled at how far I've come and one of the strange things about DMT
[00:22:07 - 00:22:16]	 is that it does not affect your mind in an ordinary sense in that, you know, drugs they make you
[00:22:16 - 00:22:24]	 giggly, they frighten you, they stimulate you, they depress you. DMT does none of this. You go to that
[00:22:24 - 00:22:35]	 place with all your groceries, you're there and you're there thinking Jesus H. fucking Christ,
[00:22:35 - 00:22:43]	 what is this? What is it? And you're thinking I must be dead. I've done it this time.
[00:22:43 - 00:22:54]	 This is a psychedelic mantra. I've done it this time. I must be dead. And so you think heart,
[00:22:54 - 00:23:04]	 yes, heart, pulse, pulse, yes, yes. And meanwhile these things are literally in your face and what
[00:23:04 - 00:23:11]	 they do is they jump into your chest and then they jump out again and what they're doing,
[00:23:11 - 00:23:23]	 and this is the point I think, what they're doing is they are singing, chanting, speaking
[00:23:24 - 00:23:35]	 in some kind of language that is very bizarre to hear but what is far more important is that
[00:23:35 - 00:23:47]	 you can see it. They speak in the language which you see and this is completely confounding because
[00:23:48 - 00:23:56]	 syntax is not something you ordinarily reach out and touch and in this space that's what's happening
[00:23:56 - 00:24:03]	 and so like jeweled self-dribbling basketballs these things come running forward and what they
[00:24:03 - 00:24:12]	 are doing with this visible language that they create is they're making gifts. They're making
[00:24:12 - 00:24:25]	 gifts for you and they will say which condenses as something which looks like a cross between
[00:24:25 - 00:24:33]	 a soft-lipped camel, a Havana cigar, a piece of abalone, an opal, and a nookie and they offer it
[00:24:35 - 00:24:44]	 and you're looking at this thing and as you look at it it also transforms, changes, speaks, sings,
[00:24:44 - 00:24:52]	 undergoes metastasis, undergoes metamorphosis and these things are just accumulating and each
[00:24:52 - 00:25:00]	 elf machine creature elbows others aside says look at this, look at this, take this, choose me,
[00:25:01 - 00:25:09]	 and as you direct your attention into these things you have the overwhelming conviction
[00:25:09 - 00:25:19]	 that if you could bring a single one of these objects back to this world that somehow you
[00:25:19 - 00:25:25]	 wouldn't have to say anything. You would just walk up to people and say friend
[00:25:27 - 00:25:36]	 and you would say oh my god you've got a piece of the action the real action so
[00:25:36 - 00:25:50]	 this state of ecstatic frenzy and it's like a bug bunny cartoon running backwards in cyber
[00:25:50 - 00:25:56]	 states or something this state of incredible frenzy goes on for about three minutes and all
[00:25:56 - 00:26:06]	 the time the elves are saying don't give way to wonder do not abandon yourself to amazement
[00:26:06 - 00:26:18]	 pay attention pay attention look at what we're doing look at what we're doing and then do it
[00:26:19 - 00:26:28]	 do it and it's this thing where then everything stops and they wait and you feel like a torch
[00:26:28 - 00:26:39]	 a spark lit in your belly that begins to move up your esophagus and eventually when it reaches
[00:26:39 - 00:26:52]	 your mouth your mouth just flies open and this language like stuff comes out acoustically it's
[00:26:52 - 00:27:03]	 is
[00:27:03 - 00:27:22]	 but what you're you're not hearing it the startled friends who sent you to this place are putting up
[00:27:22 - 00:27:32]	 with this what you're experiencing is a visual modality where these tones are surfaces shading
[00:27:32 - 00:27:50]	 colors insects jewels you are making something you know erase move forward as cerulean put in
[00:27:50 - 00:28:00]	 stippling it's that sort of thing and um and they go mad with joy when you do this and then
[00:28:00 - 00:28:08]	 you know this goes on for about 30 seconds and then there is like a ripple through the system
[00:28:08 - 00:28:18]	 and you realize these two continua are being pulled apart and i had one trip where the the
[00:28:19 - 00:28:25]	 and often it's very erotic although i'm not sure that's the word but it's something it's almost
[00:28:25 - 00:28:33]	 like sex is the surface of something of which this is the volume and i'm a great fan of sex i
[00:28:33 - 00:28:43]	 don't mean to demigrate it i mean to raise the mt to a very high status but it's it's astonishing
[00:28:43 - 00:28:51]	 and one trip as the pull away maneuver began all the elves turned simultaneously and looked at me
[00:28:51 - 00:29:09]	 and said deja vu deja vu so this is an experience which in some form i mean it will be different for
[00:29:09 - 00:29:18]	 each one of you but in some form at least what will be similar to my description is how dramatic
[00:29:18 - 00:29:28]	 it will be it will hit you as hard as it hit me if you do it right this to me this experience
[00:29:28 - 00:29:35]	 is of a fundamentally different order than any other experience this side of the yawning grave
[00:29:36 - 00:29:43]	 and why religions have not been built around it why empires have not risen and fallen around the
[00:29:43 - 00:29:51]	 control of its sources why theology has not enshrined it as its central exhibit for the
[00:29:51 - 00:30:00]	 presence of the other in the human world i don't know i can tell the secret as you notice nothing
[00:30:00 - 00:30:08]	 shuts me up but why this is not four inch headlines on every newspaper on the planet
[00:30:08 - 00:30:15]	 i cannot understand because i don't know what news you were waiting for but this is the news
[00:30:15 - 00:30:32]	 that i was waiting for and it's an incredible challenge to to human understanding to try and
[00:30:32 - 00:30:43]	 make sense of this and i started out you know reading young doing my hindu you know getting
[00:30:43 - 00:30:49]	 up to speed with all that studying zen buddhism studying shamanism the thing that puzzles me about
[00:30:49 - 00:31:00]	 dmt is how little trace there is of it in the human world i can't point to a period in european
[00:31:00 - 00:31:10]	 art or the art of some group of islanders somewhere and say that is very much like dmt it isn't and
[00:31:10 - 00:31:19]	 yet the dmt thing is it's like an avalanche of orgasmic beauty but a certain kind of beauty
[00:31:19 - 00:31:28]	 the only words that i can find for the kind of beauty that it is is bizarre alien outlandish
[00:31:28 - 00:31:37]	 freaky and at the very edge of what the human mind seems to be able to hold
[00:31:38 - 00:31:46]	 well where is this coming from and what is happening and and this is what i like to discuss
[00:31:46 - 00:31:53]	 with people such as yourselves who have wide experience in the world and in the realms of
[00:31:53 - 00:32:01]	 the unseen it has to be taken seriously in other words the it's only a hallucination
[00:32:01 - 00:32:09]	 thing that for ship is just passe i mean reality is only a hallucination for crying out loud
[00:32:09 - 00:32:16]	 haven't you heard so that takes care of that it's only a hallucination what we've got here
[00:32:16 - 00:32:28]	 folks is an intelligent intellect key of some sort that is frantic to communicate with human beings
[00:32:29 - 00:32:32]	 for some reason and
[00:32:32 - 00:32:44]	 the possibilities can be logically enumerated i mean what we've got here is either this is
[00:32:44 - 00:32:52]	 an extraterrestrial you know evolved in around a different star possibly with a different biology
[00:32:52 - 00:32:59]	 may not even be made of matter came across an enormous distance some time maybe long ago
[00:32:59 - 00:33:08]	 have some agenda which we may or may not be able to conceive of this is it the real thing as the
[00:33:08 - 00:33:15]	 little girl said in poltergeist they're here so that's one possibility that's just one possibility
[00:33:17 - 00:33:24]	 and i i present these without judgment because i'm not sure uh
[00:33:24 - 00:33:38]	 if an extraterrestrial wanted to interact with the human society and it had ethics that forbade it
[00:33:38 - 00:33:45]	 from landing trillion ton beryllium ships from the united nations plaza in other words if it
[00:33:45 - 00:33:55]	 were subtle i can see hiding yourself inside a shamanic intoxication you would say let's analyze
[00:33:55 - 00:34:00]	 these people okay they're kind of hard-headed rationalists except they have this phenomenon
[00:34:00 - 00:34:09]	 called getting loaded and when they get loaded they accept whatever happens to so let's hide
[00:34:09 - 00:34:17]	 inside the load and we'll talk to them from there and they'll never realize that we're of a different
[00:34:17 - 00:34:28]	 status than pink elephants okay that's one possibility now another possibility is that this
[00:34:28 - 00:34:38]	 is not about extraterrestrial flight and enormous technologies and distant homelands that uh and
[00:34:38 - 00:34:45]	 this is maybe closer to friendlier to pagan notions that there is a parallel continuum
[00:34:45 - 00:34:54]	 nearby essentially right here and call it fairyland call it the western realm whatever
[00:34:54 - 00:35:02]	 you like that you don't go there in starships you go there through magical doorways which are open
[00:35:02 - 00:35:12]	 via ritual and and things like that that is a possibility as well certainly human folklore
[00:35:12 - 00:35:19]	 in all times and places except western europe for the last 300 years has insisted that these
[00:35:19 - 00:35:30]	 parallel domains of intelligence and and organization exist there is a third possibility
[00:35:30 - 00:35:37]	 which i leave it to you to decide whether this is the more conservative position or the more
[00:35:37 - 00:35:46]	 radical position and i reached this reluctantly and i'm not sure this is my position but
[00:35:46 - 00:35:57]	 these things have a weird these types as i call them these self-transforming machine elves these
[00:35:57 - 00:36:06]	 these syntactical homunculi have a very weird relationship to human beings first of all they
[00:36:06 - 00:36:14]	 love us they care for some reason whoever and whatever they are they're far more aware of us
[00:36:14 - 00:36:24]	 than we are aware of them i've been witnessed the fact that they welcome me uh so is it possible
[00:36:25 - 00:36:35]	 that at the end of the 20th century at the end of 500 years of materialism reductionism positivism
[00:36:35 - 00:36:45]	 what we're about to discover is probably the least likely denouement any of us expected out
[00:36:45 - 00:36:54]	 of our dilemma what we're about to discover is that death has no sting that what you penetrate
[00:36:54 - 00:37:06]	 on dmt is an ecology of human souls in another dimension of some sort i mean this is hair
[00:37:06 - 00:37:14]	 raising to me and i spent my whole adolescence and early adulthood getting free from catholicism
[00:37:14 - 00:37:22]	 and its assumptions and i never imagined that a thorough exploration of life's mysteries would
[00:37:22 - 00:37:33]	 lead to the conclusion that in fact uh this is but a prelude we are in a very tiny womb
[00:37:33 - 00:37:46]	 of some sort our lives are gestation and this is not where we are destined to unfold ourselves
[00:37:46 - 00:37:57]	 into what it means to be human this is some kind of a metamorphic stage like the pupa of a butterfly
[00:37:57 - 00:38:10]	 and so uh this is deep water because you know we are fairly agitated over the fact that we fear the
[00:38:10 - 00:38:20]	 planet is dying and us with it this stuff raises the issue that you don't know what dying is
[00:38:20 - 00:38:31]	 therefore it's very uncertain exactly what sort of an attitude we should take to it and as i say i
[00:38:31 - 00:38:39]	 am not advocating a position mysteries are not unsolved problems they are mysteries when you stand
[00:38:39 - 00:38:49]	 naked in the presence of the mystery it is still utterly and completely mysterious but i enjoy
[00:38:49 - 00:38:59]	 talking to people about this because i think that the human body the human mind these are tools for
[00:38:59 - 00:39:09]	 the soul to use in the effort to unlock its meaning and its destiny and millions of people
[00:39:09 - 00:39:18]	 perhaps billions of people have gone to the grave without knowing that this is possible
[00:39:18 - 00:39:27]	 this experience that i just described to you and it's perfectly harmless i mean i think that if
[00:39:27 - 00:39:37]	 science would back out of politics and do its work we could establish that dmt is the most harmless
[00:39:37 - 00:39:46]	 the safest of all hallucinogens the fact that it occurs naturally in the human brain
[00:39:46 - 00:39:55]	 is the first clue to its the fact that it's benign the second clue is the fact that
[00:39:56 - 00:40:06]	 it only lasts eight to 12 minutes what that means to a pharmacologist is the body perfectly
[00:40:06 - 00:40:13]	 understands what to do with this compound you take a hit of dmt and your body says oh i recognize
[00:40:13 - 00:40:22]	 this uh activate the animation cycle activate demethylation cycle activate it knows what to do
[00:40:23 - 00:40:32]	 and so within 10 minutes you're down a drug that you take and 48 hours later you're lying around
[00:40:32 - 00:40:41]	 in warm baths and refusing telephone calls is a drug you shouldn't have taken because it's hitting
[00:40:41 - 00:40:50]	 you too hard that's not it's not clean it's not smooth dmt the most powerful hallucinogen known
[00:40:50 - 00:40:59]	 to man and science clears your system in 15 minutes i mean you're so down you can't you
[00:40:59 - 00:41:05]	 don't have a small headache or need to take a nap or anything you're ready to do phone calls
[00:41:05 - 00:41:18]	 so how can it be then that a compound which each of us carries right here right in the pineal gland
[00:41:19 - 00:41:28]	 right in the ashram chakra the philosopher stone is no further away than that how can this be secret
[00:41:28 - 00:41:38]	 from us how can we be trapped in the dimension of such limitation and such mundaneness when
[00:41:38 - 00:41:46]	 our own nervous systems and the ecology around us and our own history over the past half million
[00:41:46 - 00:41:53]	 years argues that this is what we were born and bred for this is where we belong this is what
[00:41:53 - 00:42:04]	 at play in the fields of the goddess must mean and somehow history has made us dysfunctional
[00:42:04 - 00:42:15]	 buried the mystery made it a if at best a piece of secret knowledge jealously guarded by somebody
[00:42:15 - 00:42:21]	 i mean i don't know there are lots of mystery cults and secret societies in the world i don't
[00:42:21 - 00:42:31]	 know if any of them are guarding dmt as a secret i it may be so no one told me to keep my mouth shut
[00:42:31 - 00:42:41]	 if a very suggestive short story i'm sure many of you know and love the the argentine surrealist
[00:42:41 - 00:42:48]	 writer or hey louis borghese well borghese has a book i believe it's called labyrinth
[00:42:48 - 00:42:56]	 and in labyrinth there is a short story called the sect of the phoenix and it says there is a
[00:42:56 - 00:43:07]	 sacrament older than mankind the sectarians have been the victims of every persecution in human
[00:43:07 - 00:43:18]	 history and the sectarians have been the purveyors of every persecution in history these sectarians
[00:43:18 - 00:43:31]	 are not identifiable by race or place or language or time to the adept the mystery appears ridiculous
[00:43:31 - 00:43:42]	 yet they do not speak of it one child can initiate another it is orange ruins are propitious
[00:43:42 - 00:43:50]	 places do it in the moonlight in the threat at the thresholds of buildings
[00:43:50 - 00:43:58]	 and that's all that's it it's a page and a half and it suggests and and see here is the thing
[00:43:59 - 00:44:06]	 i mean i am not as articulate on this subject as i wish i could be if this is not the secret
[00:44:06 - 00:44:15]	 that these lineages are guarding then they're guarding an empty house this is the secret
[00:44:15 - 00:44:26]	 it is it is it cannot be anything else it is the neoplatonic one it is the trans-substantial
[00:44:26 - 00:44:36]	 object the pamas super substantialist of the alchemist and it's and and i'm not saying that
[00:44:36 - 00:44:45]	 people have known about this for a long time dmt is in many plants as i said but spread very thinly
[00:44:45 - 00:44:52]	 and we don't have historical records of anyone ever concentrating i've done the dmt
[00:44:54 - 00:45:03]	 plant preparations of the amazon the snubs and the ayahuasca and on ayahuasca if it is heavily
[00:45:03 - 00:45:12]	 laced with the dmt containing plant after hours of breath work and drumming alone in the jungle
[00:45:12 - 00:45:20]	 you can begin to open it up to the place the dmt will carry you to in 45 seconds in an upper east
[00:45:20 - 00:45:34]	 side apartment whether you like it or not so uh and and i i some of you may have seen i don't
[00:45:34 - 00:45:42]	 years and years ago this b movie about a guy who has a big ranch in mexico and one of the campesinos
[00:45:42 - 00:45:50]	 comes rushing back from having encountered the brontosaur in the forest and he can only point
[00:45:50 - 00:45:58]	 inarticulately at the woods and say something something something something
[00:45:58 - 00:46:07]	 and that's what i am i'm a monkey and i come back to the truth and i'm telling you
[00:46:08 - 00:46:18]	 there's something over the next hill that is off the scale off the scale and i have made it my
[00:46:18 - 00:46:29]	 business to you know delve i'm a delver i'm a no ethic archaeologist i very obscure heresies and
[00:46:29 - 00:46:41]	 strange rights and all of us have been there done that it's all pale soup compared to this and so i
[00:46:41 - 00:46:51]	 i hype it to you