[00:00:00 - 00:00:05] ...cosmic trigger, probably on the influence of some psychedelic drugs, but we'll come to that. [00:00:05 - 00:00:13] And in it he summarizes yours and your brother's work on the time wave and he in fact charts our [00:00:13 - 00:00:18] history into three major sections, the 67-year section which will comprise the bulk of my life, [00:00:18 - 00:00:22] an interesting 13-month section which will happen in 2011, and then an interesting [00:00:22 - 00:00:26] six-day section which will happen immediately preceding the winter solstice in 2012, [00:00:27 - 00:00:32] in which I believe during the last six-day session there will be more novelty than has existed on the [00:00:32 - 00:00:39] planet since ever. And I looked at this and I had been reading, I'd started off easy so I'd read Alvin [00:00:39 - 00:00:44] Toffler and then I could take a little bit more so I worked myself up into Pierre Teilhard de Chardin [00:00:44 - 00:00:49] and then I came across that and I said well this appears to be the case. It was confirmed to me [00:00:49 - 00:00:54] internally in a way that I could not particularly argue with, I could not argue out of. It was simply [00:00:54 - 00:01:02] a foundational fact and all of my work thereafter was based on a premise that the universe is [00:01:02 - 00:01:07] seeking a type of closure, that in fact things are converging. And so my own life study had been [00:01:07 - 00:01:13] perhaps an exploration of what those avenues of convergence were and it ended up over a period [00:01:13 - 00:01:20] of years that my own life story became a search to create the forms of that convergence. So I'll [00:01:20 - 00:01:26] flash forward to my first experience of virtual reality which happened in 1990 and required [00:01:26 - 00:01:32] absolutely no technology except about 500 micrograms of LSD25. I've been thinking, I've been reading [00:01:32 - 00:01:38] and all of a sudden I drop acid after several years and of course if you've taken several years [00:01:38 - 00:01:46] break and all of a sudden flush yourself back into that realm you can find that things really pop up. [00:01:46 - 00:01:54] And I found myself in a virtual world and what I found in this virtual world, the thing that I [00:01:54 - 00:02:00] must have suspected that I would find in this virtual world wasn't an artificial Tron-like [00:02:00 - 00:02:07] environment. It wasn't something that was entirely artificial. What I beheld in that environment was [00:02:07 - 00:02:14] an image of the planet as if I was cruising above it in a spaceship and I knew that part of my own [00:02:14 - 00:02:21] destiny as connected with virtual reality wasn't to escape into another dimension but to find a way [00:02:21 - 00:02:27] to make real to us the things that we can't always see because we exist at a level of scale [00:02:27 - 00:02:38] of experience that hides them from us. And at that point in my life I decided I needed to leave New [00:02:38 - 00:02:44] England to come to California where everything was really going on. This was 1990 and VR was the hot [00:02:44 - 00:02:49] new thing and we forget now that VR was the hot new thing before the internet became the hot new [00:02:49 - 00:02:57] thing but for a while it was the cheese. And I moved to San Francisco which made it much easier [00:02:57 - 00:03:06] to get good drugs and I started to explore by working, by building systems what the virtual [00:03:06 - 00:03:14] reality was and this started to have a profound change on my own understanding of how reality was [00:03:14 - 00:03:22] constructed because my psychedelic description of reality which is that mind forms reality began to [00:03:22 - 00:03:28] conflate or become identical with my physical or scientific description of reality which is that [00:03:28 - 00:03:35] mind forms reality. And all of a sudden I understood that everything I used to understand about the way [00:03:35 - 00:03:44] the universe works wasn't as true as I thought and so this began to inspire me a search, a search [00:03:44 - 00:03:53] to get to some basic level of being that would allow me to work in a world that was manifest [00:03:53 - 00:04:00] because of my own will and just as much as manifest because of your own will because where we're going [00:04:01 - 00:04:09] the simulated and the real are going to get really blurry and we don't have any tools, we don't have [00:04:09 - 00:04:15] any tools of mind. Western culture which is based on this idea of this objective external reality [00:04:15 - 00:04:23] it's not hard, it's all become very soft and it's all flowing together so we need to now start to [00:04:23 - 00:04:32] find ways of describing what's going on and so what we need to do I found in my own investigations [00:04:32 - 00:04:39] is to take a look at cultures that describe the world magically, that understand that perception [00:04:39 - 00:04:47] shapes what you are and you shape what you see and that they're not separate areas, they're not [00:04:47 - 00:04:54] separate domains but you have to consider them as a whole. So the four sort of prongs that got [00:04:54 - 00:05:02] talked about in the blurb that was written for this piece are techno-paganism and techno-paganism [00:05:02 - 00:05:06] is maybe you could describe it a bunch of different ways and I certainly didn't make the [00:05:06 - 00:05:10] word up and I certainly didn't apply the word to myself but it stuck because Wired magazine [00:05:10 - 00:05:16] published an article two years ago with my face blazing on it, photoshopped, reversed in color [00:05:16 - 00:05:22] and said this is a techno-pagan and really what it was trying to do was trying to articulate my own [00:05:22 - 00:05:28] experience of being thrust into this world where everything was melting and nothing was solid and [00:05:28 - 00:05:33] trying to come to grips with it philosophically, trying to come to grips with it ontologically [00:05:33 - 00:05:40] and my own explorations had led me to understand that in fact in a world where anything you want [00:05:40 - 00:05:45] is true the only way you can deal with this is by learning how to deal with your will. [00:05:46 - 00:05:52] And dealing with your will is what magic has always in all cultures always been about. This is [00:05:52 - 00:05:59] why the shaman doesn't go insane when the world disappears. He's ready for it. They're ready because [00:05:59 - 00:06:07] they understand that where they are isn't bound up in their view of the world. The internet is [00:06:07 - 00:06:13] a connective layer and you were talking about this last night it's beautiful. If you took a picture of [00:06:13 - 00:06:19] this room in 1990 and you took a picture of it today everything will look exactly the same and [00:06:19 - 00:06:25] yet everything is completely different because in 1990 we didn't have this layer of bits that's [00:06:25 - 00:06:31] flowing seamlessly among all of us and it's changed us. It's radically sped up the way [00:06:31 - 00:06:37] we deal with information in society and every bit of information that passes through you changes you. [00:06:38 - 00:06:45] You cannot be unaffected in any way by any bit of information. So the internet is acting as this [00:06:45 - 00:06:51] enormous accelerator. It's acting as something that's passing through all of us and radically [00:06:51 - 00:06:56] transforming us and part of what it's doing is ripping us apart and that's dangerous. If we [00:06:56 - 00:07:01] don't approach that carefully and if we don't approach that with a lot of heart we're going to [00:07:01 - 00:07:06] find ourselves and what we think of as ourselves ripped away in that process. One of the reasons [00:07:06 - 00:07:10] why I think it's very important that this is happening at Esalen is because if Esalen were [00:07:10 - 00:07:18] running a political campaign their slogan would be "it's the body stupid" because it begins here [00:07:18 - 00:07:25] and it ends here and if we can stay in our bodies even while we're projected into cyberspace we have [00:07:25 - 00:07:33] some zone for sanity. We have some zone for being and psychedelics can produce these boundary [00:07:33 - 00:07:38] dissolutions where you flow into another thing. What we're going to see and it's actually quite [00:07:38 - 00:07:46] true that certain types of VR can produce precisely the same asset. There are zones where virtual [00:07:46 - 00:07:51] reality can be very dangerous for that reason or incredibly powerful and meaningful for that reason. [00:07:51 - 00:08:00] So where I would like to work from this weekend is I really want to work from the heart. I [00:08:00 - 00:08:05] personally think in my own philosophy that to work in technology you have to work from the heart [00:08:05 - 00:08:11] center because otherwise you'll create golems, you'll create frankensteins, your creations will [00:08:11 - 00:08:16] run away from you and that's the essence of the story of the golem is that this is a creature that [00:08:16 - 00:08:21] was created with the breath of life but without the light of knowledge or the heart, the heart of god. [00:08:21 - 00:08:27] So we really have to work from that and one of the things that we'll be doing this weekend for that [00:08:27 - 00:08:31] and we're inviting you, I don't think we're requiring you because that would just not be in [00:08:31 - 00:08:36] the tenor of this place, but we're inviting you at 7 30 in the morning both tomorrow and Sunday [00:08:36 - 00:08:41] to come practice Kundalini yoga and Kundalini yoga works very much on the heart center. [00:08:41 - 00:08:46] It's not strenuous, I guarantee you it will be fun. We have a very good teacher James will be [00:08:46 - 00:08:51] teaching this and the idea is that with these exercises we can help to open up our heart [00:08:51 - 00:08:56] center so that when we talk tomorrow, when we meet tomorrow we can really be working from that [00:08:56 - 00:08:59] even when we're talking about these ideas that may be very technologically [00:08:59 - 00:09:03] relevant they won't be isolated in our minds. [00:09:03 - 00:09:08] That all said, [00:09:08 - 00:09:21] I also want to explore the joyous nature of what we can do and a lot of my work has been around [00:09:21 - 00:09:27] exploring the joyous nature of what we can do. We have to if we're working from our hearts in [00:09:27 - 00:09:32] these environments then a part of what we want to do is be joyous in these environments. One of my [00:09:32 - 00:09:40] biggest gripes about the internet is that it can't as yet contain the tenor of human emotion which is [00:09:40 - 00:09:45] so important. If we're building this edifice to be the global mind and it can't laugh we've got a [00:09:45 - 00:09:53] big problem. If it can't sing we have a big problem and so one of the things we'll be doing probably [00:09:53 - 00:09:57] in the evening on Saturday is doing something we call voce which Paul and I have been working on [00:09:57 - 00:10:03] we call it world song or voce which is a singing or toning technique and it can produce a quality [00:10:03 - 00:10:09] of connection in a group of people which is the closest I've heard it described is it's almost [00:10:09 - 00:10:14] like instant ecstasy in the sense of the drug and it's a temporary sort of lowering of the [00:10:14 - 00:10:23] interpersonal barriers in a really really wonderful way and hopefully at the end of all of this I will [00:10:23 - 00:10:27] have been inspired and Terrence will have been inspired by what you had to say and we'll be able [00:10:27 - 00:10:33] to bring that that heart-centeredness which has to I believe for me that the heart of how we work [00:10:33 - 00:10:41] when we're working in the world and with technology in the world. Isn't he a great guy? [00:10:41 - 00:10:49] [Applause] [00:10:49 - 00:10:54] If I had the Timothy Leary laurels with me I'd hand them on. [00:10:54 - 00:10:58] [Laughter] [00:10:58 - 00:11:00] The bad penny could pass. [00:11:00 - 00:11:05] [Laughter] [00:11:05 - 00:11:12] Well that's why it's I love listening to Mark rap this stuff and he really knows where he's coming [00:11:12 - 00:11:26] from and it's it's exciting stuff. I've been into this psychedelic thing since the late 60s and [00:11:26 - 00:11:36] it's transformed in different ways and there's been a strange sort of literary parallelism or [00:11:36 - 00:11:46] cloud over my own life so that as my obsessions evolve society obligingly evolved in the same [00:11:46 - 00:11:55] direction and when I got started with psychedelics it was because I was interested in the mystical [00:11:55 - 00:12:04] experience a la Jacob Berman, Thomas Trehearne and all that sort of thing and I had read Aldous [00:12:04 - 00:12:15] Huxley's book The Doors of Perception so it was a spiritual intentionality and as time passed I [00:12:16 - 00:12:25] was completely satisfied in that but I also became interested then in what were psychedelics in terms [00:12:25 - 00:12:33] of their impacts on large numbers of people and on human social and cultural evolution because to [00:12:33 - 00:12:42] me it was just this incredible power this dimension which my own culture completely denied and [00:12:42 - 00:12:50] overlooked but that obviously from the first time I had a major trip on it was clear to me that this [00:12:50 - 00:13:02] had to have evolutionary implications and it seemed to me as I read my Darwin and Freud that [00:13:02 - 00:13:11] there had to be some kind of quickening influence in human emergence that if not outright [00:13:12 - 00:13:20] transcendental was certainly unique and out of the ordinary order of nature and so that I spent [00:13:20 - 00:13:26] years thinking about psychedelics implications for human evolution and most of you if you're [00:13:26 - 00:13:34] interested know my theories about all this well then the engagement with it extended further and [00:13:34 - 00:13:44] I began to see it as a lens for coordinating large amounts of data in order to essentially [00:13:44 - 00:13:54] prophesize the future that the the future somehow I had the notion that history and the individual [00:13:54 - 00:14:02] life built around the psychedelic experience were fractal reflections of each other and that led to [00:14:02 - 00:14:10] the conclusion that history is a trip and that led to the conclusion that the yes the the best [00:14:10 - 00:14:23] was yet to come or the yes was bet to come I'm not sure so it had this socio-political and historical [00:14:23 - 00:14:31] implication and it wasn't as simple as just imagining what would happen if societies would [00:14:31 - 00:14:40] permit these things but I could also see that it was a catalyst on imagination that you know [00:14:40 - 00:14:47] whatever it was that psychedelics were doing it was taking anybody's notion of reality anybody's [00:14:47 - 00:14:54] mindset and radically extending it and if they found that comfortable they were ecstatic and if [00:14:54 - 00:15:02] they found it horrifying they were traumatized but the common thread was takes ordinary minds [00:15:02 - 00:15:13] makes them bigger stranger more grotesque less predictable more bizarre so then that was not yet [00:15:13 - 00:15:21] the outer parameter of the issues that this phenomenon the psychedelic experience seemed [00:15:21 - 00:15:27] to engage it seemed to me that at the personal and experiential level the thing that was so [00:15:27 - 00:15:39] astonishing about it was not that it led at least for me directly to God what it led to was more [00:15:39 - 00:15:50] art than I conceived of existing how was it that you know in a five-hour psilocybin trip an ordinary [00:15:50 - 00:15:58] person lying in darkness sees more art than is stored and cataloged in all the museums of Europe [00:15:58 - 00:16:06] I mean this was confounding to me and I had a Jungian bias too so I was full of the notion of [00:16:06 - 00:16:14] the commonality of the unconscious and all that and so I was puzzled why don't I see these motifs [00:16:14 - 00:16:22] in Tibetan painting, Shapibo carving, why how can something which is so near [00:16:22 - 00:16:31] over a very slight energy threshold involved in taking these substances be so distant from our [00:16:31 - 00:16:41] cultural values in our store of images and it was around this time roughly 1990 that I began to [00:16:41 - 00:16:49] hear the first buzz about virtual reality and I knew the minute I understood the concept I knew [00:16:49 - 00:16:56] in the same way that I knew when I heard about the first MAC and LSD and [00:16:56 - 00:17:07] potassium sugar perchlorate rocket fuels that this was going to be the next great thing and [00:17:08 - 00:17:22] as a tool of art as a tool for leading us beyond the notion that we are a hive society of advanced [00:17:22 - 00:17:31] primates because that's how we visually appear to the empirical point of view that's a that's an [00:17:31 - 00:17:39] out of context description of what we are it's like a schematic or an aerial map what we really are [00:17:39 - 00:17:51] is the community of mind knitted together by codes and symbols intuitions aspirations histories hopes [00:17:51 - 00:18:00] the invisible world of the human experience is far more real to us than the visible world [00:18:00 - 00:18:11] which is little more than a kind of screen or stage upon which we move so this thing Mark said I [00:18:11 - 00:18:20] heard it for the first time and and got it that the purpose of VR is to show us aspects [00:18:20 - 00:18:28] of reality that are not artificial but that are fields of data not ordinarily coordinated by [00:18:28 - 00:18:36] ordinary perception you know Ralph Abraham who's the favorite around here has talked about how [00:18:36 - 00:18:45] mathematics which has been a high priesthood of arcane formulae and special signifying languages [00:18:45 - 00:18:54] is giving way to visual understanding if you talk to someone about a seven or eight dimensional [00:18:54 - 00:19:01] process most people completely blur out if you show them an animation of an ongoing eight [00:19:01 - 00:19:08] dimensional process everybody understands without a word being said exactly what is happening so [00:19:08 - 00:19:19] I see virtual reality as a way not of escaping the any notion of empirical reality but as a way of [00:19:19 - 00:19:30] re-portraying invisible levels of the given world that are very vital and important to us how we see [00:19:30 - 00:19:37] flows of energy how we understand complex economies how we understand the fractal [00:19:37 - 00:19:47] hierarchies of nature everything is about to get very much more complicated much larger the number [00:19:47 - 00:19:57] of choices are about to exponentially explode in a sense these technologies point us toward if not [00:19:57 - 00:20:06] literal godhood than a kind of fictional godhood we are all going to become the masters of the [00:20:06 - 00:20:15] narrative in which we are embedded our separate stories are going to take on dimensions so [00:20:16 - 00:20:23] multiferous that for all practical purposes we will each move into a cosmos of our own creation [00:20:23 - 00:20:30] and control it's in a way all that is happening is that what is already co-present with three [00:20:30 - 00:20:40] dimensional reality is being literalized but literalized in in time scales that make the [00:20:40 - 00:20:48] nature of the game apparent to all but the dullest among us I mean after all we have always lived in [00:20:48 - 00:20:58] virtual realities ever since we abandoned nomadism and defined a polis and a wilderness and you know [00:20:58 - 00:21:08] when hamarubi set up the first codes in Babylon these were operating codes these were constraints [00:21:08 - 00:21:15] on the human system that did not fully implement its capabilities but rather defined and limited [00:21:15 - 00:21:25] it for purposes of implementing certain design goals well now we've been in the birth canal of [00:21:25 - 00:21:34] the design process for about 8 000 years now and and we can see light at the end of the tunnel [00:21:34 - 00:21:43] the french have a notion of a forward escape that means when the situation gets so crazy [00:21:43 - 00:21:50] then you just hit the accelerator and drive straight up the middle and that's the forward [00:21:50 - 00:21:59] escape and technology represents this for us our ideologies are probably lethal obviously lethal I [00:21:59 - 00:22:09] would say but they are fortunately a kind of chrysalis of ideological constraint that technology [00:22:09 - 00:22:16] is in the process of dissolving and you know William Butler saw this in the 19th century [00:22:16 - 00:22:26] Tellard de Chardin reached it in the 40s and the 50s McLuhan expressly articulated this vision in [00:22:26 - 00:22:33] the 50s and the 60s this is really you know as Ahab tells the crew in Moby Dick this is what you've [00:22:33 - 00:22:42] shipped for me this this was the plan you know Plato said if God does not exist man will create [00:22:42 - 00:22:52] such a thing and we are creating a simulacrum of our highest hopes and the effort to define [00:22:52 - 00:23:02] the actual delimiting architecture of our hope is an intellectual exercise that we have never [00:23:02 - 00:23:12] previously submitted to and what I mean by that is when you can do anything what do you do [00:23:12 - 00:23:20] we've always worked within the constraints of mortar glass steel our our economic [00:23:20 - 00:23:28] scales our the physical scales VR eliminates all of this you know the difference between a [00:23:28 - 00:23:34] 10-story building and a 100-story building in virtual reality is one zero in a line of code [00:23:34 - 00:23:43] well with that kind of freedom the human imagination which has been defined by limitation [00:23:43 - 00:23:51] the planet's surface the needs and wishes of others is going to unfold in these super spaces [00:23:51 - 00:23:59] and you know it's a gnostic epiphany if you believe it what it really comes down to in terms of the [00:23:59 - 00:24:06] politics and psychology of it is a final resolution in to my mind of the question is man good [00:24:08 - 00:24:19] in other words with all constraints removed do we descend into a a a world of you know Freudian [00:24:19 - 00:24:31] nightmare and simulated sadomasochism or do we express something which matter always mitigated [00:24:31 - 00:24:38] against so that's what I think is I'm sure we will do both I mean the essence of choice [00:24:38 - 00:24:47] means not only will will we collectively do both probably each and every one of us will do both [00:24:47 - 00:24:55] you know occasionally you flop on the seamy side it gives a literary quality to life that's lacking [00:24:55 - 00:25:04] among the tight ass so um well I don't know it's a quarter of ten do you want to riff off that for [00:25:04 - 00:25:20] a bit and then we'll send these folks packing I've been piecing together an essay while I've [00:25:20 - 00:25:26] been here which I'm calling West of Esalen which is interesting because if you take a look at what's [00:25:26 - 00:25:34] West of Esalen you see it in Gaping Cliff which has been growing of late and Esalen as is [00:25:34 - 00:25:40] all of California is breaking off and falling into the sea and there is no safe land anywhere [00:25:40 - 00:25:49] and that's more than a metaphor for where we are now and it's interesting because there's talk [00:25:49 - 00:25:55] about what Esalen has to do with the modern age and yet so much of what we think of as [00:25:55 - 00:26:02] modern language has been shaped by what's come out of this place talking about you know somebody's [00:26:02 - 00:26:08] vibes or being touchy-feely or even doing yoga which is now of course all the rage and late [00:26:08 - 00:26:15] millennial culture these are all impulses that came out of this place so there's something about [00:26:15 - 00:26:22] this space and about the body which is incredibly right and even if Esalen vanished tomorrow god [00:26:22 - 00:26:32] has forbid even if it did the impact of it as an institution has been profound and I think perhaps [00:26:32 - 00:26:38] what we're trying to do here this weekend and tonight is to extend the franchise of Esalen [00:26:38 - 00:26:46] into another realm to say that the values that make us human the values that make us good [00:26:48 - 00:26:55] are the values that come out of what's done here and maybe they're values that rely on the body [00:26:55 - 00:27:02] in some way that even as we talk about this gnostic release this uploading of the soul into [00:27:02 - 00:27:09] some sort of silicon which we will talk about that there's this body that's behind sort of bitching [00:27:09 - 00:27:17] saying excuse me I'm real and I am the potential I am the ground in which you work [00:27:18 - 00:27:31] because of that I hope that we will spend some of the weekend not just speculating but constantly [00:27:31 - 00:27:38] looping and bringing it back into the body and where the body is the question of the body is [00:27:38 - 00:27:45] one of the largest questions in virtual reality that's a curious contradiction and yet it's true [00:27:45 - 00:27:52] where is the body in cyberspace where are you when your email is flashing across the net when [00:27:52 - 00:27:58] your agents are doing your bidding where are you and how do you maintain yourself and it was [00:27:58 - 00:28:02] interesting because there was a comment that was made earlier about psychedelics as a shortcut [00:28:02 - 00:28:07] versus yoga or one of the other traditions and I know that in my own life I need both of them [00:28:07 - 00:28:12] because I need the psychedelics in order to be able to have the vision but I need the yoga in [00:28:12 - 00:28:18] order to maintain the stability to express the vision and so there's both dials there it's as if [00:28:18 - 00:28:24] the internet is some sort of collective psychedelic we're going to need the body as we pass through it [00:28:24 - 00:28:29] so that we can explore the zones within ourselves that are the good [00:28:29 - 00:28:39] yeah it's great what you say about that we're trying to push the definitions of [00:28:39 - 00:28:47] excellence relevance because you know the entire intellectual and spiritual effort here over the [00:28:47 - 00:28:54] past 30 years flies under the flag of the human potential movement I mean that's what it's called [00:28:54 - 00:29:02] and certainly what we're talking about here and trying to bring gently onto the stage [00:29:03 - 00:29:14] is an enormous frontier of human potential we are to some degree beginning to design ourselves [00:29:14 - 00:29:22] or beginning to design our potential in the service of the idea of a perfected [00:29:22 - 00:29:32] humanity of some sort and what we're talking about here is not genetic manipulation or eugenics or [00:29:32 - 00:29:42] any of these somewhat dubious enterprises with a clouded history but using technological prosthesis [00:29:42 - 00:29:50] to extend and enrich humanness to enrich communication and it is believe me the want [00:29:50 - 00:29:58] of good communication that is the thing probably if anything undoes us this will be it that our [00:29:58 - 00:30:05] language has failed that we misread each other's intent that we could not understand each other [00:30:05 - 00:30:17] so the the project of refining language is is the same project as the ending of history [00:30:17 - 00:30:24] I mean history is the story of languages that failed and when language grows perfect [00:30:24 - 00:30:32] history will end and it may language may not look like it looks today or sound like it sounds today [00:30:32 - 00:30:39] the realization that's flowered in the wake of the internet and the rise of cybernetics is [00:30:39 - 00:30:48] that everything is made of information information is the primary datum of being concepts like time [00:30:48 - 00:30:55] and space and energy are orders of magnitude removed from the present at hand when compared with [00:30:55 - 00:31:06] a concept like information and and as Mark said every iota every bit of information that passes [00:31:06 - 00:31:15] through us that we generate that we transmit changes us so I'm seeing here almost a theosophical [00:31:16 - 00:31:24] epiphany of language trying to bootstrap itself toward realms of platonic perfection [00:31:24 - 00:31:35] which as organic beings we experience as love love beauty truth these are the vectors of human [00:31:35 - 00:31:42] becoming they always have been they always will be and the technologies that open these paths for us [00:31:42 - 00:31:53] are no more and no less powerful than the human beings that wield them so you know this is [00:31:53 - 00:32:01] this is an enterprise of integrity and millennial implication and what lies as the goal [00:32:02 - 00:32:14] is true humanness in sympathetic symbiosis with the planet and with these strange children that [00:32:14 - 00:32:20] we have brought into the world our machines I mean that is the challenge at the end of history [00:32:20 - 00:32:26] and that's what we'll be talking about this weekend thanks for coming and to get some sleep [00:32:27 - 00:32:33] Mark I wanted to ask you where is the yoga yoga is here 7 30 tomorrow morning is they have movements [00:32:33 - 00:32:39] here in the big room in the meeting room in the big house in the big house living room at 7 [00:32:39 - 00:32:43] everyone familiar where the big house is it's across the bridge and it's the big house okay [00:32:43 - 00:32:50] that's a big house okay opposed to the little house which it sits opposite from and it's the [00:32:50 - 00:32:55] big house 7 30 please you'll you'll enjoy it if you have a blanket or something bring it it'll [00:32:55 - 00:32:57] you'll be comfy but if not don't worry about it. 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