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the same don't push us too far meanwhile back at the ranch it's total chaos and what governments do

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is manage chaos by telling everybody it's okay watch tv here we spent 500 million dollars to

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make a movie for you about flying saucers now watch it now talk about it now think about it

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leave us alone you know people are being drugged entertained lied to delayed deferred misdirected

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propagandized used abused but nobody has a clue as to where we're going meanwhile there's this inner

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dynamic to things guys with ponytails just keep inventing weird stuff and handing it out on the

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internet and

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do other guys and women keep making strange substances and peddling them in remote parts

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of the world and people keep making strange music and dancing and subverting subverting subverting

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and this is this is where the dynamic will come from anybody who says they have a plan at this

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point is just standing in the way the plan will emerge

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of the youth culture out of the dynamic of the situation the aboriginal lifestyle there are so

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many of them i'm now realizing i mean in each place i go there's always the other people over

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the hill and say well are you going to go see the bushman or would you be seeing the zuni while

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you're here or are you going to go to the mixtec villages or would you be going to see the hawaiian

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encampment or would you go out to see the ball village or would you go to see the prunpo they're

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everywhere these people i mean there's a lot of breast beating about extermination because

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we certainly push their numbers back but they watch every gathering from the periphery and

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what they're waiting for i think is for the prodigal tribes to drop the pretense of history

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and to bring the fruits of the hunt the hunt of history which was a hunt for

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energy and the secrets of matter and take it back and lay it not at the feet of the scientist

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the manager or the industrialist but at the feet of the shaman

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jelly because the shaman's concern is the care of the community not the making of money or the

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promoting of a given class or something like that but the care of the community and we have immense

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power we human beings have immense power and immense goodness in us but standing between us and

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is the trauma of the historical experience and what to overcome that

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we are simply going to have to change our minds it's the hardest thing to change

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to change minds and you can do it sometimes with rational argument on some small area

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like if i spend nine hours maybe i can convince you to switch your medical plan or something

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but that's not what we're talking about we're talking about changing our attitude toward what

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it is to be a human being on this planet and the only thing i've seen that works fast enough

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because if we had a thousand years you know we could hold weekends and

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do things and slowly slowly slowly but we don't have that kind of time

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so what works is chemical intervention shamanic intervention aboriginal

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on modern pathology

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the modern mind has served its purpose as a raft it has carried us across the wide swift running

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river of history and uh and now it should be abandoned it's become toxic it doesn't serve anymore

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we're going out to the natural world we're going to be abandoned in a moment

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we should try and move towards the actual world we should push from the past

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from the present and change the future and change the future in the near future

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the future is long gone we can start again a new generation and see where we go

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in some way i'm much more aware that we're going to be under vorstellen by a nation

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a retreat from the brink of a historical apocalypse created by overpopulation and

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resource abuse and untrammeled militarism and dominator politics and the the the thing that

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is critical here and why all governments are nervous in the presence of it is the psychedelic

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experience in the in the environment of youth culture and technology it just is it's a dagger

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pointed at the heart of the old discredited and defunct cultural style you know seeking through

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the human world for wisdom if you must do that then logic would dictate that you confine yourself

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to dead people

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because there have been so many more so you know long before you get to shri bhagavan rajneesh

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how about five years with plato uh or platinus or

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newton or you know there have been some good people who have undergone the formality of no

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longer existing uh but they're they still have left their books around and they're usually

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better companies

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than some in the flesh bd-eyed character who has the latest gospel out of beverly hills to share

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with you

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this is what coffee does to me you see the afternoon it's you get a different creature

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here you get an air clawing table coming

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poland

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is

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that's why psychedelics are somehow I think a kind of inoculation against

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paranoia paranoia is a failure to perceive the pattern and instead then to

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impute to guess the pattern say well I guess the Pope must be running things or

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I guess it's the CIA doing it or something it means in the absence of

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understanding you falter and then of an error of thought there may be evil in

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the universe but what a rough row it has to hoe you know I wouldn't bet on it

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that's for sure because the appetite of the universe is for connectivity novelty

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light meaning identity and I do think that

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it's that optimism is going to be necessary to create a better world that

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you know you can't you pessimists cannot make a better world Marxists were

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pessimists fascists were pessimists and they what they created was nightmarish

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so in but then safe say well but we need realists to create a better world well

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but realists in the modern form tend to

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be rather down because they're they're factoid freeze if I believe if my if I

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believe this world were controlled by governments religions bankers and large

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companies I would be freaked out indeed you know but I don't think it's

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controlled by any of those those groups are all reacting you know they would

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love to control the

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Of course they would, but, my God, it's so complicated.

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It just keeps slipping through their fingers.

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Right before here, I was in London and staying in Westminster,

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which is the government part of London where all the big ministries are,

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and at night I would have to walk from the ICA,

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about a 20-minute walk back to my hotel,

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through the darkened streets of Whitehall and Westminster.

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And in those huge ministry buildings, after 1 o'clock in the morning,

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there are so many lights on, so many lights are burning

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in the chancelleries and ministries of the governments of this planet.

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And you know why? Because it's getting out of control.

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It's slipping from their grip. They have worries.

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They're poring over maps. They're looking at computer projections,

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saying, you know, what the hell are we going to do?

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Uh...

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So they're not gaily conspiring to run the world.

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They're frantically planning to try and hold on

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to their own pathetic bit of turf before it's wrest from their grip.

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Let's take a break.

