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Perturbing your brain in another dimension. First of all, there are many aliens haunting the popular mind at the moment

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For instance, let's go through the four generic classes of aliens. Okay

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The Pleiadians, the Arcturians, the Zeta Reticulans and the Grays, all right?

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And the Pleiadians are all white light. Evidently Maui is filled with Pleiadians, all right?

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The Arcturians are sort of more mischievous, but basically good. The Zeta Reticulans are the ones who probe the people.

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Who also have the alien voice inside the mushroom.

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So you've got two nice species and two evil species.

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And if you think about it, and authors have written about this, the way we used to think about the spirit world of angels and demons

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has roughly been transposed into modern, quasi-scientific language, into what we think of the alien.

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You know, people are so alienated from their own soul, that when they meet their soul, they think it comes from another star system.

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Beyond the expectations of linear reality, under the stimulation of psychedelic substances, we find that the world appears very much like Aboriginal people say it is.

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It's a world of spirits, invisible forces, languages of power, intuitive revelation.

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The logic of a virtual world is closer to the logic of the dream, time, and the magical state of being.

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For thousands of years, we've had virtual reality. Once you have language, language is the technology for the creation of virtual reality.

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I mean VR for a number of things, but I think that's one of the direct functions of VR is to act as this catalyst.

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In the same way that psychedelic drugs can act as a catalyst, or some sort of visionary or shamanic experience can act as a catalyst.

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When you take mushrooms, it's the equivalent of taking a certain piece of software and running it on an operating system.

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Imagine the shaman sitting around the campfire telling the old stories, and everybody follows him in, and it's dark, and they see the pictures in their mind.

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This is virtual reality, run by its voice-directed VR.

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So you think language is the way we see?

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Yes, language is the way we are. It is the way we are.

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We are linguistic creatures first and foremost. Language shapes the world. All of magic works by language.

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Computers work by language.

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You mean the stew of information in which the world is slowly being boiled?

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Virtual reality is like magical reality in the sense that you can cast a spell and change the world.

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That spell might be written in C++ or Java, but it's no different.

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While we're on this idea of changing the world with a spell or a code, do you consider yourself a shaman?

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The shaman is the person who knows how the world really works.

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If you know how the world really works, you're a shaman.

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If you don't know how the world really works, then you're a citizen of some culture.

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What's your definition of a shaman?

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I've got a couple. Certainly one is Terence's definition.

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Someone who's been to the eschaton and looked it in the eye and is not so worried about it.

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Now, for you that don't know what the eschaton is, it's kind of the end.

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The shaman is the guy who is permitted to look under the board because he's been to the end and because he's been to the other side.

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What is the end?

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It's the impending climax of what we think of as human civilization, although I would argue it's probably the organization of life on earth, into a global self-awareness.

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The eschaton does not contain category. It does not contain boundary.

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The eschaton cannot be described in words. It's one of those things.

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If you could describe it in words, you would be after the eschaton.

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It's as if humanity is struggling to find a new word.

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And the root of that word is love. I know that.

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But the word itself has not been spoken yet.

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And that word, when it's spoken, changes the way we think.

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And that word, when it's spoken, changes the way we think.

