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The whole 2012 thing is sort of a neo-pagan repackaging of the Christian apocalyptic thing.

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Well, I completely agree, yeah.

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I mean, it's exactly, that's what it is.

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And again, people, you know, I mean, it is exactly that.

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You know, the expectation that Jesus is going to come and save us, or, you know, the alien space brothers are going to show up in their mile-wide ships and save us.

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You know, and what I tell people is, forget it.

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You know, this is an excuse for not taking responsibility for yourself.

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You know, Jesus ain't coming.

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I'm sorry.

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You know, the aliens ain't coming.

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I'm sorry.

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It ain't going to happen, you know.

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We're in a pile of shit here.

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And it's up to us to get out of it.

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It's up to us to take responsibility.

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So, in some ways, I mean, this has sort of become my latest rant.

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I'm sort of saying, you know, don't expect anyone to come along.

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You know, as a species and as individuals, you know, we're more than ready to give up responsibility.

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You know, we want wisdom.

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We don't want to be dispensed from a guru or a priest, you know.

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Yeah.

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We want salvation to come from outside.

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You know, we want some cosmic force, you know, to intervene in history and save us from ourselves.

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I think that the whole 2012 meme is unhealthy, in a sense.

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Because, again, it just provides an incentive for people.

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To not take responsibility and to sort of, you know, hold that, you know, well, after 2012, it'll all be good, you know.

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But, no, I mean, there's no reason to think that.

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Are you?

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And so, you know, I mean, the thing is, and it encourages us to, you know, put it off.

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Right.

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We may not have until 2012.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Things are going to happen.

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And ask it.

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And we need to get on it, you know, and not wait around for some postulated salvation.

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Jesus ain't coming.