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And I want to thank all the women who support me.

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I have wonderful support systems from women of all types

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who seem dedicated to the notion that Terrence McKenna can always be improved.

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And I'm extremely grateful for that.

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The frontiers are enormous in that dimension.

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Okay, what I want to talk about tonight is the notion or the idea of psychedelic society.

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When I spoke at Santa Barbara at the psychedelics conference,

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whenever it was, last May, a year ago,

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my contact lenses failed me at a critical point in my lecture.

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And I said,

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I simply had to wing it.

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And later, when I played this tape back,

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I heard this phrase, psychedelic society.

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And I had never used it consciously in a lecture.

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But because I had said it,

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and because there had been a ripple of resonance to it

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from the crowd of people there,

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I began to think about it.

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And this evening, I will just generally assess

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what it might mean for us.

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I'm definitely a pioneer in this field.

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I'm sure you're all familiar with the book Megatrends,

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which is making quite an impression at the moment.

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Well, Megatrends nowhere mentions the eminent transformation of human society

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through the application of psychedelic drugs.

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I don't know what they were thinking.

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What I think a psychedelic society,

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what that notion means or implies to me,

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in terms of ideology,

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is the idea of creating a society

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which always lives in the light of the mystery of being.

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In other words, that solutions should be displaced

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from the central role that they have had in social organization.

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And mysteries, irreducible mysteries,

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should be put in their place.

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The British enzymologist J.D.S. Haldane, in the 1920s,

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in an essay, said,

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the universe may not only be stranger than we suppose,

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it may be stranger than we can suppose.

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And I suggest to you that as we look back over human history,

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every pinnacle of civilization,

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whether it be Mayan or Greco-Roman or Sung dynasty,

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has believed that it was in possession

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of an accurate description of the cosmos

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and of man's relationship to it.

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This seems to go along with the full flowering of a civilization.

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But from the point of view of our present civilization,

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we regard all those conceptions as at worst quaint,

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at best half-right,

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and congratulate ourselves that our civilization

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at last has its finger on the real description

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of what is going on,

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and that actually what blinds us

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or what makes historical progress very difficult

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is our lack of awareness of our ignorance

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and that beliefs,

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should be put aside,

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and that a psychedelic society

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would abandon belief systems

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for direct experience.

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And this is, I think,

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much of the problem of the modern dilemma,

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is that direct experience has been discounted

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and in its place all kinds of belief systems have been erected.

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I would prefer a kind of intellectual anarchy

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where whatever was pragmatically applicable

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was brought to bear on any situation,

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but where belief was understood as a self-limiting function.

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Because you see, if you believe something,

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you're automatically precluded from believing its opposite,

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which means that a degree of your human freedom

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has been forfeited in the act of committing yourself

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to this belief.

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And I maintain that it's pointless to have beliefs,

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in a sense,

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because the universe really is stranger than we suppose.

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And what we need is a return to what in the 16th century

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was called the Baconian method,

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which means not the elaboration of fantastic thought constructs

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which explain,

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but merely a phenomenological cataloguing of what we experience.

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Computer networks and psychedelic drugs

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and the increased availability of information in the world

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have actually made possible the evolution

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of new alien information states,

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which never existed before.

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And we are processing these things,

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but at a very slow rate,

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because we are hindered by ideology.

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Now, I mentioned in an earlier workshop this afternoon

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that Freudian models, Jungian models of the psychedelic experience,

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which saw it as somehow a stripping away of resistance

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and a revealing of complex and hidden emotions and motives

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and belief systems,

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has been replaced in the last five to ten years

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with the shamanic model of hallucinogenic and shamanic experience.

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This model holds that archaic peoples

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have deputized special people

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to probe hidden information fields using psychedelic drugs,

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and that the information extracted from these information fields

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is then used to guide and direct the society.

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Now, I'm interested in this second model

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and spent time in the Amazon

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and am familiar with the operational mechanics of shamanism

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and shamanic personalities and that sort of thing,

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but I believe, actually,

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that the psychedelic experience looms larger

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than the institution of shamanism

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and that we hold a unique opportunity

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which is sort of the flip side of the culture crisis.

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Our ability to destroy ourselves

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is the mirror image of our ability to save ourselves,

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and what is lacking is a clear vision of what should be done.

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What should be done is certainly not the accumulation

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of ever larger nuclear arsenals

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and the promotion of all kinds of primate game playing

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of the sort that Tim Leary is well versed in denouncing.

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What needs to be done

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is that fundamental ontological conceptions about reality

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have to be remade.

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We need a new language,

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and in order to have a new language,

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we must have a new reality.

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It's almost a kind of Ouroboric equation

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or a bootstrap situation.

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A new reality will generate a new language.

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A new language will fix a new reality

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and make it part of this reality.

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These psychedelic drugs are...

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can be conceived of as points on an informational grid.

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They provide new perspectives on reality,

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and it is when you connect all points of perspective

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that you have on reality

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that a reasonably applicable model of it begins to appear.

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And I think this reasonably applicable model,

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what Wittgenstein called something which is true enough,

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is what we're looking for.

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The true enough mapping of experience onto theory

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is what we're looking for.

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But experience must be made primary.

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The language of the self must be made primary.

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And anarchy carries this responsibility

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even when it's only political anarchy.

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What I'm advocating is that we each take responsibility

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for the cultural transformation

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by realizing that it is not something

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which will be disseminated from the top down.

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It is something which each of us can contribute to

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by attempting to live as far into the future as possible.

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You know, we must get rid of the conceptions

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of the 40s, the 50s, the 60s, the 70s,

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the 80s, the 90s.

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We must smear the historical past

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into the historical moment

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and become exemplars of the humanity of the end time.

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And those of you who attended my lecture this afternoon

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about time know that I believe that liberation

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or let's even say decency as a human quality

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is an actual resonance and anticipation

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of this future perfected state of humanity

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and we can will the perfect future into being

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by becoming microcosms of the perfect future

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and no longer casting blame outward on institutions

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or hierarchies of responsibility and control

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but by realizing that the opportunity is here,

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the responsibility is here

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and the two may never be congruent again

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and the salvation of your immortal soul

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may depend on what you do with the opportunity.

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So what do you do with the opportunity?

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What does it mean to say in operational terms

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live as far into the future as you can live?

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It means taking a position

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vis-a-vis this emergent hyperdimensional reality.

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It does not necessarily mean

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becoming a psychedelic drug user yourself

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but it means admitting to yourself the possibility

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and if you feel the heroic potential within yourself

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to be one of the experiencers

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one of the pioneers

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then you know what to do.

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If on the other hand

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you fear to be lost

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in the abyss

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you fear what William Blake called

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falling into eternal death

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fallen from the spiral of being

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which connects one reincarnation to another

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and falling into the realm of eternal death

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then you orient yourself towards the psychedelic experience

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towards the psychedelic phenomenon

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as a source of information

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a mirror image of the psychedelic experience

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and the other is the psychedelic experience

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that you experience in hardware

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or computer networks.

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Computer networks paradoxically enough

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are a deeply feminizing influence on society

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where in hardware

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the unconscious is actually being created.

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It's as though we took the platonic bon mot

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about how if God did not exist

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man would invent him

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if the unconscious does not exist humanity will invent it in the form of

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these vast networks able to transfer and transform information this is in fact

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what we are caught up in is a transforming of information we have not

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physically changed in the last 40,000 years the human type was established the

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at the end of the last glaciation but change which was previously operable in

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the biological realm is now operable in the realm of culture and we are shedding

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cultural adumbrations of our vision of the Unitarian mystery at a faster and

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faster rate as we try to accommodate ourselves and mirror ourselves to the

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mystery which lies ahead of us in time

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and which is throwing this vast shadow fatedness back over the entire

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experience of human history for everyone who has lived in it and previous to our

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own era the only control language which could be applied to this thing which was

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bringing people together and causing birth and death and tearing down and

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erecting civilizations was God and it was an

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immaculate

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imagined as a self-conscious force that was leaning into the world like a cat into a

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fishbowl and making things happen now we have a different notion a notion of a

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vector system where forces over a large area are oriented toward a very small

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space and this is what history is

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it's an inrush

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towards what the Buddha is called the realm of the densely packed a transformational realm where the

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opposites are unified and the way I characterize this union of opposites is to say it is that realm

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where the body is finally interiorized the mind is finally exteriorized the way I think of the mind is

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the fourth dimensional a fourth dimensional organ of your body you can't see it because it's in the

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fourth dimension but you experience a sectioning of it in the phenomenon of consciousness but that

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is only a partial sectioning of it the way a plane is a partial picture of a cone when it truncates

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it the growth of information systems is only a mirroring in masculine hardware of what already

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exists in nature as a fact and it is up to us to hone our intuitions and to become aware of this

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pre-existent system of communication and wiring so that we can step away from the dualism of

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which separate us from each other and from the world.

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We need to realize that there is a gene swarm,

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not a set of species on the earth,

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that half the time when you think you're thinking,

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you're actually listening,

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and that ideas are remarkably slippery things

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and they're very difficult to trace to their origins,

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and that we really are one-on-one and all together

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in a dimension that is not as accessible

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as you might wish to be congealed,

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as Finnegan's writing says.

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The psychedelics are a red-hot social issue,

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social issue, ethical issue,

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whatever the term for it is,

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and it is precisely because they are deconditioning agents.

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They will cast doubt in you.

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If you're a Hasidic rabbi,

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a Marxist anthropologist,

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or an altar boy,

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because their business is to dissolve belief systems,

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and they do this very well,

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and then they leave you with the raw datum of experience,

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what William James called, in talking of infants,

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a blooming, buzzing confusion,

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is what they leave you with,

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the raw datum of experience,

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and out of that,

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you reconstruct a world,

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and you need to understand

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that it is a dialogue where your decisions,

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the projection of your grammar

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onto the intellectual space in front of you

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is going to gel into a mode of being.

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We actually all create our own universe

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because we are all operating with our own private languages,

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which are only very crudely,

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translatable into any other person's language.

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There's even a physical analog to this,

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which will further reinforce this notion of alienation.

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It is that your picture of the world impinging on your eyes

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is made of photons.

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Photons are tiny wave packets so closely circumscribed energetically

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that they can be thought of particles,

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thought of as particles.

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That means that

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every single photon which falls on the back of my eye

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is different from every single photon

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which falls on the back of any one of your eyes.

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This means that I am using 100%

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a different section of the world than any one of you is

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to get a picture of the world.

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And yet we are sitting here with the naive assumption

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that our pictures of the world differ only by our perspective

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within the space of the room.

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And we have numerous extremely naive assumptions like this

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built into our thinking.

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And our most venerable explanatory engines such as science

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happen also to be our oldest explanatory engines

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and therefore they have built into them

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the most naive and unexamined assumptions.

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For instance, science.

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We can demolish it in 30 seconds.

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Science tells you that a set of conditions will create a given effect

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and that every time that set of conditions is in place

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that effect will be found to obtain.

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Well the only place this happens is in laboratories.

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In our experience it isn't like that.

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A contact with a person is always different.

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The experience of making love,

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having a meal,

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riding the bus,

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these things are always different.

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It is their uniqueness in fact

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and the uniqueness that pervades all being

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that makes it bearable at all.

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Yet science is willing to tell you that the only things worth describing

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are those phenomena that can be repeatedly triggered.

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This is because these are the only phenomena science can describe

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and that's the name of the game as far as they are concerned.

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But we, to claim our freedom,

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to take advantage of the tiny moment

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between immense abysses of unknowability,

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perhaps death, perhaps other reincarnations,

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perhaps transitions into other life forms,

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these things we don't know.

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But in the moment of being human

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we have a unique opportunity

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to figure things out.

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And I have the faith

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that it is possible sometime, somewhere

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to have a conversation

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perhaps no progress would be made until the ninth hour

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but to have a conversation

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in which reality could be literally pulled to pieces

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beyond the point of reconstructing.

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I had a friend, I'm not sure if this is germane,

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but I had a friend back in the sixties

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who one day on LSD took a toothpick

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and he sat for fourteen solid hours

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with the toothpick and a large red brick

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and he demolished it.

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He reduced it to nothing

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with this toothpick and his fingernail

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long after the toothpick was gone.

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And this is what we have to do

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to the ideological concrete in which we are set.

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We have to claim anarchy

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and realize that systems

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have a life of their own

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that is anti-humanist.

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There is definitely an anti-humanist tendency

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in all systems.

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Ludwig von Bertalanffy

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who was the inventor of general systems theory

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said, you know, people are not machines

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but in every situation

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where they are given the choice

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they will behave like machines.

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We all fall into patterns.

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We all then hold those patterns

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ever more tightly.

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They cannot be violated

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and this happens on the thought level.

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And we are at the cresting wave

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of the historical wave

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of this kind of uptightness

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that stretches back millennia.

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And I think that we have now come

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to the end of this phase.

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Whether you buy into my own

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peculiar apocalyptic

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and transformative vision

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involving 2012

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or whether you just can tell

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by looking around you

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that the shit may soon hit the fan,

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I think we can agree that we have come

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to some kind of a pass.

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And what is going to come out of it

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is either going to be

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a great deal of dislocation

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in the biosphere,

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the invalidation of intelligence

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as an adaptation of biology

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and our extinction

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or we are going to become

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as James Joyce dreamed we could

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man-made dirigible

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is how he put it.

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In other words,

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the exteriorization of the soul,

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the interiorization of the body.

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And in this process

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everything is going to be

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challenged.

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The very notion of humanness

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is going to be challenged

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because we are on the brink

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through genetic manipulation of DNA

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of actually taking control

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of the human form,

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of being able to extend

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the notion of art

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inward into the human body and form.

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Are we classicists?

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Shall we each be an Adonis

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and a Persephone?

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Are we...

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What are we?

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Are we surrealists?

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Shall I be a potato

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and you a burning leopard?

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These are decisions

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which will have to be faced.

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These are the important questions.

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And this vertical game

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which we see in the metaphors

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that are applied to psychedelic drugs,

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consciousness expansion,

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getting high,

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psychedelic tripping,

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demonic flight,

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all of these things

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are being paralleled.

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It's like the drugs

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are the feminine software

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formative leading edge

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of what is happening.

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Coming along behind that

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is the hardware engineering

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masculine mentality

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that is processing all this stuff

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into hardware.

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And this will continue

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until the leading edge

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out distances

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the engineering mentality

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through breakthrough.

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And this is what I think

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the shamanic hope is.

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That we can find a way

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to use chemicals

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in our bodies

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and our voices

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and our thoughts

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and our hands upon ourselves

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and each other

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to transform ourselves

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without technology

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to move into the realm

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of the imagination

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on the natch as it were

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with an interiorized

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psychopharmacologically applied technology

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that frees us in the imagination.

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At the same time

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that this is going on

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the engineering mentality

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is going to set human societies

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in orbit around the earth

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and the moon

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and the near planets.

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But there's a catch here

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for the engineering mentality.

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Which is that the very void

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which surrounds the planet

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exemplifies this enfolding

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abyssal feminine element.

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It is the mysterious mama matrix

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of Finnegan's Wake.

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The mysterious mama matrix

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is the universe

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and there is no escaping that fact.

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So that I think

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the engineering mentality

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which will seek to change man

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into his machines

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will have to be counterpoised

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by the psychedelic

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earth-oriented

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imagination-oriented

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side of things

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which will create then

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the potential

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for the spiritual marriage

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that will be

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the alchemical perfection

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of a new form of humanity.

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And this is not far away.

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It can't be far away.

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It must be now and soon.

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And it is as I said

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it is a personal responsibility

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incumbent upon all of us

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to act.

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There is definitely

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an obligation to examine

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the possibility of action

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and to think clearly

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about self and other

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language and world

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past and future

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because too much

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we have lived

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in the light of the idea

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that your ideology

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will be dictated to you

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essentially by geography.

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And if you are born in India

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you will find out

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that the cosmos is one way.

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If you are born in Brooklyn

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you find out

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it is another way.

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What we need to do

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is transcend

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these localized grids of fate

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which make us

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what we are

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but don't want to be

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because you claim

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this higher level of freedom

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by the simple act

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of applying attention

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the experience of being

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the primacy of experience.

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This is why I can get along

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with these people in the Amazon

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who do these drugs

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because though my Spanish

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is terrible

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and often theirs is worse

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because they are Indians.

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La experiencia, Señor.

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And yes, we understand.

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We know.

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And he says, you know,

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because we are posing

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usually as scientists

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of some sort.

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You are from this or that university.

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You will return to this laboratory.

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You show me this paper

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which has the name

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of my friend in it

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because he helped you last year.

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But I say to you,

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experience is the thing.

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And the only thing

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you can say to that is

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we know.

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It is.

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We must begin to send out

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ideological

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visions

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rather than be

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the consumers of them.

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We need to turn off

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the metaphorical televisions

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which are hooking us in

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to the network

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of cultural assumptions

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dictated from the Pentagon,

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Madison Avenue,

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and what have you.

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We need instead

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to turn on our terminals

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and to begin to interact

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with like-minded people

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throughout the world

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and establish

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this new

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intellectual order

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which will be then

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the salvation of mankind,

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I firmly believe,

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because it is a collectivity

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and people will then feel

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the interrelatedness

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of their fates,

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feel that interrelatedness

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as a thing which transcends

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national divisions,

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ideological divisions,

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feel the primacy

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of being part

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of the human family.

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And I think that it

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will not be done

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without psychedelics

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because we have drifted

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so long without them.

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Surely we are the culture

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that has gone longest

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without psychedelics

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in any cultural situation

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throughout the world.

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It's been 2,000 years

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since the mystery

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was real at Eleusis

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and in that 2,000 years

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we have wandered

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far, far into confusion.

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But we are the prodigal sons.

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We can redeem

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the ideal of shamanism

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from pre-technological

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social stasis

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and actually project it,

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perfect it,

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and send it out

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to the stars.

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And if we don't do this,

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everything is lost.

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There is no standing still.

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There is only risk

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and commitment

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to these millennia-long

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cultural goals

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that will restore meaning

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and direction

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to our civilization

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or we will fritter it away

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into chaos and destruction

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and the horrors

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of the typical future scenario.

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Thank you.

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You mentioned the expression

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gene swarm

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and I'm not familiar with it.

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Could you explain it?

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Yes.

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I talked about this

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in the workshop this afternoon

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pointing out

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that the notion of species

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is simply

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a 17th century convention

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of biological classification

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begun by Linnaeus

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because when you visually

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look around

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with no awareness

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of geological time,

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you do seem to see

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distinct plants and animals.

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But now that we are aware

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of such things

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as bacterial transfer

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of genes from one organism

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to another

33:38.770 --> 33:39.770
and this sort of thing,

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we realize

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that the apparent fixity

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of the species

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is an illusion

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and that actually

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there is only a gene swarm

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on the planet

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and it coagulates

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into centers,

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the densest kind of center

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it coagulates into

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we call an organism

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but it also coagulates

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into more loosely bound systems

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such as symbiotic relationships

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or even

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or yet more loosely bound relationships

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ecotomes and biospheres

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and that really

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there are just

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from any given biological center

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there is just a series

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of concentric shells

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of influence

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going both directions

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outward

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and that's a more true view

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of the situation on the planet

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than the notion

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that there are distinct species.

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So that you would see

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the actual organisms

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and all that

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as being maybe

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or the gene swarm

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expressing itself

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as an interaction

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with the environment

34:52.300 --> 34:53.300
at that particular moment

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Yes, they are temporary

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aggregates

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of genetic material.

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I've never heard that

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and I find it very interesting.

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Well, it turns out

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when you start

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I don't want to get

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too deeply into it

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because it's a sideline

35:07.300 --> 35:09.300
but when you start looking

35:09.300 --> 35:10.300
at the ways

35:10.300 --> 35:11.300
that genetic material

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is transferred around

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there are all kinds of ways

35:16.300 --> 35:17.300
there's even been

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a kind of termite

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found in Africa

35:21.300 --> 35:27.300
where the mating activity

35:27.300 --> 35:29.300
is so furious

35:29.300 --> 35:30.300
that

35:30.300 --> 35:32.300
and the sexual organ

35:32.300 --> 35:33.300
of the male insects

35:33.300 --> 35:35.300
so sharp

35:35.300 --> 35:36.300
that they actually pierce

35:36.300 --> 35:38.300
the body cavity

35:38.300 --> 35:39.300
not only

35:39.300 --> 35:40.300
of

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females

35:41.300 --> 35:42.300
but also

35:42.300 --> 35:43.300
of other males

35:43.300 --> 35:44.300
and by marking

35:44.300 --> 35:47.300
the sperm

35:47.300 --> 35:48.300
of these insects

35:48.300 --> 35:49.300
and following it

35:49.300 --> 35:51.300
you can discover

35:51.300 --> 35:53.300
that some

35:53.300 --> 35:55.300
male individuals

35:55.300 --> 35:56.300
are transferring sperm

35:56.300 --> 35:57.300
to females

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that is not

35:58.300 --> 36:00.300
their sperm

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and that absolutely

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violates

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the central dogma

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of Darwinian evolution

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which is that

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the genetic material

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the transferability

36:11.300 --> 36:12.300
and adaptability

36:12.300 --> 36:13.300
of the genetic material

36:13.300 --> 36:15.300
is directly linked

36:15.300 --> 36:16.300
to the adaptability

36:16.300 --> 36:18.300
of its carrier

36:18.300 --> 36:19.300
but here you have

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a situation

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where the owner

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of the sperm

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may be dead

36:23.300 --> 36:24.300
because he was

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non-adaptive

36:25.300 --> 36:26.300
but the sperm

36:26.300 --> 36:27.300
because it's in the body

36:27.300 --> 36:29.300
of a more adaptive insect

36:29.300 --> 36:31.300
is actually

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having an impact

36:32.300 --> 36:33.300
on the expression

36:33.300 --> 36:35.300
of the phenotype

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so that's very technical

36:37.300 --> 36:38.300
but anyway

36:38.300 --> 36:39.300
genetic material

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moves around

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in all kinds

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of ways

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and I'm sure

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there are more ways

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soon to be discovered

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the responsibility

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always rests

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on us

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and you don't want

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to go out

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and immediately

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form a movement

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to change

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those guys

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or that bureau

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I think

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the thing

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that should be done

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is

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people who are

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involved

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in psychedelics

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should live lives

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of such

37:23.940 --> 37:25.940
exemplitude

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and impeccability

37:27.940 --> 37:28.940
that the notion

37:28.940 --> 37:30.940
that there was anything

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shady

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or wrong

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or curious

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about this phenomenon

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would be ludicrous

37:37.940 --> 37:43.830
I've thought about it

37:43.830 --> 37:44.830
see I didn't think

37:49.830 --> 37:51.830
any other questions

37:51.830 --> 37:52.830
then thank you

37:52.830 --> 37:53.830
and thank you

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very very

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yes

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I have a clearer vision

37:57.830 --> 37:58.830
of how you would see

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a psychedelic society

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in that

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if we were able

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to demolish

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a lot of the belief systems

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that we do operate under

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what would

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how would we relate

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to one another

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how would you see

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that vision unfolding

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there was a French

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sociologist

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about 15 years ago

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who had some

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vogue

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and then faded

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I don't know

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what his sin was

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but his name

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was Jacques Ellul

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and he wrote a book

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called

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The Technological Society

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and in there

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he had an axiom

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and the axiom was

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there are no

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political solutions

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only technological ones

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the rest is propaganda

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what a psychedelic society

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would do I think

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is it would rationally

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solve problems

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the first thing to notice

38:53.950 --> 38:54.950
is that

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we could pave

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the street

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with gold

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if we would just

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eliminate defense spending

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in other words

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our limited energy resources

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are not being allocated

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in such a way

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as to move us

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towards survival

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we have to begin

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to solve

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our problems

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using solutions

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that are present at hand

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no matter

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who they offend

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so there would be

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a value system

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in operation then

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a value system

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a humanist value system

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it's very interesting

39:29.950 --> 39:30.950
that to me

39:30.950 --> 39:32.950
that the

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what do they call it

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silent majority

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that the way

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in which they name

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their enemies

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is secular humanists

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this is the only

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intelligent thing

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they ever say

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it's the only

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intelligent phrase

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in their entire repertoire

39:48.950 --> 39:50.950
but it's fascinating

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we are secular humanists

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that's precisely

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what we are

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we believe

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that human beings

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are to be the measure

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of all things

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that there is

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no other standard

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not a classless society

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or god almighty

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there is no other standard

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but man

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humanity

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people

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and this is

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a renaissance idea

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that was first denunciated

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by Marcello Ficino

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in 1510

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but we have not acted

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upon it

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we have not up to this time

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had a secular humanist society

40:31.950 --> 40:34.950
we've had this curious mix

40:34.950 --> 40:37.950
of medieval remnants

40:37.950 --> 40:40.950
in the religious department

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gangster capitalism

40:42.950 --> 40:44.950
in the economic department

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stasis seeking Marxism

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as a counterpoise to that

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we have never rationally

40:52.950 --> 40:54.950
tried to solve our problems

40:54.950 --> 40:55.950
and we have never

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rationally tried to solve

40:57.950 --> 40:59.950
our problems

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on a personal level

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until the advent

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of

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well

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psychology

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in the modern sense

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people never examined

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the center

41:12.950 --> 41:14.950
they thought of the center

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as a mirrored bead

41:17.950 --> 41:18.950
and that this

41:18.950 --> 41:19.950
you didn't ask questions

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about the self

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or motive

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or the relationship

41:23.950 --> 41:24.950
of your worldview

41:24.950 --> 41:26.950
to trauma

41:26.950 --> 41:27.950
expectation

41:27.950 --> 41:28.950
class level

41:28.950 --> 41:29.950
the

41:29.950 --> 41:30.950
all of these things

41:30.950 --> 41:31.950
we have become aware of

41:31.950 --> 41:32.950
as we have steadily

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retreated

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from the illusion

41:34.950 --> 41:35.950
of a world

41:35.950 --> 41:36.950
deployed

41:36.950 --> 41:37.950
in three-dimensional space

41:37.950 --> 41:38.950
and we're only

41:38.950 --> 41:39.950
at the beginning

41:39.950 --> 41:40.950
of this process

41:40.950 --> 41:41.950
for instance

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I mean

41:42.950 --> 41:43.950
I don't say this

41:43.950 --> 41:44.950
to knock Esalen

41:44.950 --> 41:45.950
I say it

41:45.950 --> 41:46.950
as an example

41:46.950 --> 41:47.950
I think Esalen

41:47.950 --> 41:48.950
is definitely

41:48.950 --> 41:49.950
one of the most

41:49.950 --> 41:50.950
important

41:50.950 --> 41:51.950
and most important

41:51.950 --> 41:52.950
people

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in the world

41:53.950 --> 41:54.950
definitely

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the cutting edge

41:55.950 --> 41:56.950
of things

41:56.950 --> 41:57.950
and has been

41:57.950 --> 41:58.950
for some time

41:58.950 --> 41:59.950
but isn't it

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preposterous

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that Esalen

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operates

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under the laws

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of the United States

42:04.950 --> 42:05.950
which make taking

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these drugs

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illegal

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they must

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do that

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they must

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do that

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they have no choice

42:12.950 --> 42:13.950
whatever their

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private opinions

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may be

42:15.950 --> 42:16.950
and

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all institutions

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are in that

42:18.950 --> 42:19.950
bind

42:19.950 --> 42:20.950
there's no such

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thing

42:21.950 --> 42:22.950
as a revolutionary

42:22.950 --> 42:23.950
institution

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there are only

42:24.950 --> 42:25.950
revolutionary

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people

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and this is

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why

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this de-emphasis

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on belief

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systems

42:31.950 --> 42:32.950
and they

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their

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support

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systems

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which are

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institutions

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seems to

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me

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the essence

42:40.950 --> 42:41.950
of this

42:41.950 --> 42:42.950
psychedelic

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message

42:43.950 --> 42:44.950
it's

42:44.950 --> 42:45.950
it says

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be against

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method

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don't

42:48.950 --> 42:49.950
be enslaved

42:49.950 --> 42:50.950
to method

42:50.950 --> 42:51.950
embrace

42:51.950 --> 42:52.950
anarchy

42:52.950 --> 42:53.950
anarchy

42:53.950 --> 42:54.950
and that's

42:54.950 --> 42:55.950
a bad name

42:55.950 --> 42:56.950
because in the

42:56.950 --> 42:57.950
political arena

42:57.950 --> 42:58.950
it's a weird

42:58.950 --> 42:59.950
number

42:59.950 --> 43:00.950
but in

43:00.950 --> 43:01.950
philosophy

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in science

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in love

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and in human

43:04.950 --> 43:05.950
relations

43:05.950 --> 43:06.950
generally

43:06.950 --> 43:07.950
it seems to

43:07.950 --> 43:08.950
me it is

43:08.950 --> 43:09.950
the most

43:09.950 --> 43:10.950
respectable

43:10.950 --> 43:11.950
system

43:11.950 --> 43:12.950
based on

43:12.950 --> 43:13.950
its track

43:13.950 --> 43:14.950
record

43:14.950 --> 43:15.950
any

43:15.950 --> 43:16.950
any others

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yes

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is there

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any

43:19.950 --> 43:30.970
kind of

43:30.970 --> 43:31.970
a way

43:31.970 --> 43:36.330
it is

43:36.330 --> 43:38.330
to

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like

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this

43:40.330 --> 43:43.410
well

43:43.410 --> 43:46.620
this is

43:46.620 --> 43:47.620
a game

43:47.620 --> 43:48.620
you can

43:48.620 --> 43:49.620
play

43:49.620 --> 43:50.620
yes

43:50.620 --> 43:51.620
I mean

43:51.620 --> 43:52.620
his view

43:52.620 --> 43:53.620
of it

43:53.620 --> 43:54.620
was very

43:54.620 --> 43:55.620
correct

43:55.620 --> 43:56.620
there are

43:56.620 --> 43:57.620
these lines

43:57.620 --> 43:58.620
that can

43:58.620 --> 43:59.620
be traced

43:59.620 --> 44:00.620
back

44:00.620 --> 44:01.620
gnosis

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I didn't

44:02.620 --> 44:03.620
use this

44:03.620 --> 44:04.620
word

44:04.620 --> 44:05.620
tonight

44:05.620 --> 44:06.620
gnosis

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nor did

44:07.620 --> 44:08.620
I use

44:08.620 --> 44:09.620
the word

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logos

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it's very

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close to

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the notion

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of the

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collectivity

44:15.620 --> 44:16.620
of the

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psychedelic

44:17.620 --> 44:18.620
society

44:18.620 --> 44:19.620
my idea

44:19.620 --> 44:20.620
is that

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we could

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change

44:22.620 --> 44:23.620
the logos

44:23.620 --> 44:24.620
of the

44:24.620 --> 44:25.620
mystery

44:25.620 --> 44:26.620
religions

44:26.620 --> 44:27.620
from a

44:27.620 --> 44:28.620
religious

44:28.620 --> 44:29.620
mystery

44:29.620 --> 44:30.620
into a

44:30.620 --> 44:31.620
social

44:31.620 --> 44:32.620
reality

44:32.620 --> 44:33.620
and that

44:33.620 --> 44:34.620
would be

44:34.620 --> 44:35.620
a social

44:35.620 --> 44:36.620
transformation

44:36.620 --> 44:37.620
because

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it would

44:38.620 --> 44:39.620
essentially

44:39.620 --> 44:40.620
sacralize

44:40.620 --> 44:41.620
the

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of

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we gotta

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do it

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and do

44:45.620 --> 44:46.620
it

44:46.620 --> 44:47.620
now

44:47.620 --> 44:48.620
type of

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thing

44:49.620 --> 44:50.620
as far

44:50.620 --> 44:51.620
as shamanism

44:51.620 --> 44:52.620
is concerned

44:52.620 --> 44:53.620
I couldn't

44:53.620 --> 44:54.620
quite understand

44:54.620 --> 44:55.620
why

44:55.620 --> 44:56.620
I can't

44:56.620 --> 44:57.620
sit back

44:57.620 --> 44:58.620
in my

44:58.620 --> 44:59.620
stupidity

44:59.620 --> 45:00.620
and continue

45:00.620 --> 45:01.620
this

45:01.620 --> 45:02.620
you know

45:02.620 --> 45:03.620
practice

45:03.620 --> 45:05.990
is it

45:05.990 --> 45:06.990
because

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we're

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coming to

45:08.990 --> 45:09.990
man

45:09.990 --> 45:10.990
can

45:10.990 --> 45:11.990
destroy

45:11.990 --> 45:12.990
and destroy

45:12.990 --> 45:13.990
human

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beings

45:14.990 --> 45:15.990
that's

45:15.990 --> 45:16.990
so

45:16.990 --> 45:17.990
true

45:17.990 --> 45:18.990
the

45:18.990 --> 45:19.990
the

45:19.990 --> 45:20.990
the

45:20.990 --> 45:21.990
is

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the

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a

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the

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the

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the

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the

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the

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the

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the

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the

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the

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the

45:35.240 --> 45:36.240
the

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the

45:37.240 --> 45:38.240
the

45:38.240 --> 45:39.240
the

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the

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the

45:41.240 --> 45:42.240
the

45:42.240 --> 45:48.640
but there's only one game in town and if you want to be part of the adventure of being

45:48.640 --> 45:54.560
you have to get your feet wet and that means you have to get committed in some way so it's not

45:54.560 --> 46:00.480
done now it will be done in 100 years from now this is coming i mean this wave has been rolling

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toward completion since before the breakup of pangea this is the big picture yes it's coming

46:08.400 --> 46:16.160
the monkeys are going to the stars whether smoothly or not so smoothly is not clear but the

46:16.160 --> 46:21.360
monkeys are going to the stars and they're going to take everyone with them and it can be a

46:21.360 --> 46:28.400
relatively smooth birth with no tearing and no bleeding and everything just moving right along

46:28.400 --> 46:36.240
or it can be holy hell and leave the earth the smoking cinder before it's over with but the monkey

46:36.240 --> 46:38.240
thing the information creation

46:39.200 --> 46:43.360
is definitely on its way to the stars i don't think anything can stop that

46:44.880 --> 46:48.960
if you wanted to stop that you had to get back there before the pyramids

46:51.840 --> 46:56.240
well thank you very much