UFO The Inside Outsider

Terence McKenna recounts his personal sighting of a saucer-shaped aircraft in the Amazon basin while exploring tryptamine hallucinogens with his brother. The object manifests as lens-shaped clouds that divide and rejoin before solidifying into a rotating machine with soft blue and orange lights, passing directly overhead at 200 feet. McKenna examines this encounter with both rigor and skepticism, noting the cognitive dissonance that the craft matched the Adamski photographs widely dismissed as hoaxes. He then develops his thesis that psilocybin and DMT are not mere drugs but entities bearing intelligence, and that psychedelics reveal an alien presence embedded in terrestrial biology for millions of years. McKenna argues that genuine contact with non-human intelligence lies not in observing the night sky but in engaging the nervous system through shamanic tools that have worked for millennia.
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Sorted the converted from the doubters and once again, we're preaching to the choir
What happened to all those other folks?
Anyway, maybe they didn't have the scratch
Well, that may that's legitimate reason certainly
Anyway, it's very nice to be here. I come in peace for all mankind
So and womankind as well, if I may dare to represent them
The way I thought I would structure the the thing is
Basically read a bit from my new book which I hope then
establishes my credentials as an authentic
UFO witness and possible
Abductee and then I'll talk a little bit about what I think about it
Because I don't think about it what most people think about it
My dream from the time I was eight or nine
Was to encounter a UFO because I always had the impression that if you would encounter one
You could understand it
That it was maddening to realize that seemed to have a great affinity for people who live in trailer course
But very little affinity for anybody I knew and so you
Constantly had to filter these eyewitness reports by people that you wouldn't send to the corner store to buy milk
So this was a problem and it will haunt. I'm sure it haunts many of you who have never encountered a uf.o
So I'll read the description of the encounter then talk a little bit about my conclusions and ideas about it and then we can just
Have a discussion
I guess I should say a little bit about my method. I really am a fence-sitter
I loathe science and
am always keen to attack it in most
situations though not here because I love the reason and
I'm perfectly aware of the difference. I
Also know what it what a concept means like rules of evidence
I'm not sure that's a concept as
widely circulated in these circles as it needs to be in other words
How do you tell shit from Shinola? That's very critical
And I'm I think reason
Can take us only a certain distance and then we have to go
We have to go with the divine imagination
But with all safety systems fully in operation
Or the divine imagination will lead us into complete paranoia
This is what happens to a body of knowledge
When it's unable to make good on its first premises
In other words, if you have a great notion of reality
But you can't confirm it
Then it must be because evil forces are conspiring against you and somehow
Subverting the success of your neat version of reality
And as someone who at one point in my life studied the history of science
There have been many episodes in the history of science where great hope gave way to paranoia
Where great hope gave way to paranoia
The phlogiston
Phenomenon is one example or
Lysenko and genetics
And you know it's been what 47 years since the rain near lights or close to it
And the phenomenon has not become more explicit
The hysteria has become more explicit and has wandered first in one direction and then another
But if this is a contact
It's the most peculiarly un-contact like contact
It's possible to imagine
It's always it reminds me of people say of the crop circles
You know they're communicating
Yes, but if they are they picked an incredibly obscure medium in which to do it
Because we who love communication can glean very little from what they're trying to say
Well enough barn beating
Let me read this passage
And then i'll talk more about it
And this will bring i think the
The thing into focus
I have to introduce the context
Because it wasn't like
That we just happen to be driving in a lonely and remote place and suddenly
No, it wasn't like that
We were in the center of the amazon basin
We had come there
To explore tryptamine
Halicinogens
These are short-acting very powerful psychedelic drugs
And the reason we were so interested in these drugs
Is because in encounters with it in the pure
Chemical form
It was invariably
The intoxication was invariably characterized
By encounters with elves
Gnomes
Fairies
Thousands of these things
And this was
And this is something i'm going to
You know try and convince the ufo community of
What we drug people have that you don't
Is repeatability
And the scientists always said
To you ufo people
What you don't have
Is repeatability
They don't want to even talk to us
But it is true
That that when you smoke dmt for example
At a sufficiently high and prepared dose
You get elves
Everybody does
You may not believe it
But on the other hand it only takes five minutes
To prove that i'm bullshitting you a hundred percent
Surely anyone who studied ufos and alien intelligence
For as many years as the people represented here have
Can afford to invest 10 minutes
In the wild-eyed assertion
That all you need do
Is inhale deeply three times
And you know you want contact
You want elves
You want alien intelligence you'll have it up the kazoo
Now of course it comes from an unsanctioned dimension
But i'll talk more about that after the reading
So here we were in the amazon basin
experimenting with mushrooms
And here is the passage
And so
All night long
I sat reviewing the things that had passed
Seeming to divide my consciousness
And send it both backward through my family tree
And forward into the future
I seem to see all the years still ahead
I saw some technique emerging from this contact
Our careers pursued across time and space
And finally vindication as the world realized the truth
of the trans-dimensional nature
of the stropharia visions
And the true nearness of the worlds that they had thrown open
For it had become my belief
That the contact with an intelligent and utterly alien species
Was beginning for humanity
It seemed that out of the long night of cosmic time
The novelty of novelties
The moment of contact between minds on utterly different planes was beginning
We were among the first to achieve contact with this other
It was the real thing
We had come to the equatorial jungle to explore the dimensions
Glimpsed in tryptamine ecstasy
And there in the darkness of the heart of the amazon
We had been found and touched by this bizarre and ancient life form
That was now awakening to the global potential of a symbiotic relationship
With technical humanity
All night long strange vistas and insights poured through me
I saw gigantic machineries and worlds of vegetable and mechanical forms
On scales inconceivably vast
Time agitized and glittering seemed to pour by me like living super fluids
Inhabiting dream regions of terrible pressure and super cold
And I saw the plan
The mighty plan
At last
It was an ecstasy
An ecstasis that lasted hours
And placed the seal of completion on all of my previous life
At the end I felt reborn
But as what I knew not
In the gray light of a false dawn
And I should say I wasn't loaded
I was insomniac
In the gray light of a false dawn
The wave of internal imagery faded away
I rose from where I had been sitting for hours and stretched
The sky was clear but it was still very early
And stars were still shining dimly in the west
In the southeast the direction toward which my attention had been focused
The sky was clear except for a line of fog or ground mist lying parallel
To the horizon only a few feet above the treetops on the other side of the river
Perhaps a half mile away
As I stretched and stood up on the flat stone where I had been sitting
I noticed that the line of fog seemed to have grown darker
And now seemed to be churning or rolling in place
I watched very carefully as the rolling line of darkening mist split into two parts
And each of these smaller clouds also divided apart
It took only a minute or so for these changes to be executed
And I was now looking at four lens-shaped clouds of the same size
Lying in a row and slightly above the horizon only a half mile or so away
A wave of excitement swept through me followed by a wave of definite fear
I was glued to the spot unable to move as in a dream
As I watched the clouds re-coalesced in the same way that they had divided apart
Taking another few minutes
The symmetry of this dividing and rejoining and the fact that the smaller clouds were all the same size
Lent the performance an eerie air
As if nature herself were suddenly the tool of some unseen organizing agency
As the clouds re-coalesced they seemed to grow even darker and more opaque
As they all became one
The clouds seemed to whirl inward like a tornado or a water spout
And it flashed into my mind
Perhaps it was a water spout
Something I still have never seen
But even as the thought formed I heard a high-pitched
Uulating whine
Whee! Whee! Whee!
Come drifting over the jungle treetops
Obviously from the direction of the thing I was watching
I turned and gave one glance at the river house 70 feet behind me and up the steep hill
Gauging whether I had time to run and awaken someone to get confirmation of what was happening
To arouse someone I would have had to go hand over hand
Up the slope and consequently take my eyes off the thing I was watching
In the space of an instant
I decided that I could not cease observing
I tried to shout
But no sound came from my fear constricted throat
The siren sound was rapidly gaining pitch
And in fact everything seemed to be speeding up
The moving cloud was definitely growing rapidly larger
Moving straight toward the place where I was
I felt my legs turn to water and sat down shaking terribly
For the first time I really believed all that had happened to us
And I knew that the flying concrescence was now about to take me
Its details seemed to solidify as it approached
Then it passed directly overhead at an altitude of about 200 feet
Banked steeply upward and was lost from sight over the edge of the slope behind me
In the last moment before it was lost I completely threw open my senses to it
And saw it very clearly
It was a saucer shaped machine
Rotating slowly with unobtrusive soft blue and orange lights
As it passed over me I could see symmetrical indentations on the underside
It was making the hui hui hui sound of science fiction flying saucers
My emotions were all in a jumble
At first I was terrified
But the moment I knew that whatever was in the sky was not going to take me
I felt disappointment
I was amazed and I was trying to remember what I had seen as clearly as possible
Was it real in the naive sense in which that question is asked of ufos and tables and chairs
No one else saw this thing as far as I know
I alone was its observer
I believe that had there been other observers
They would have seen
What I had seen
But as for real
Who can say
I saw this thing go from being a bit of cloud to being a rivet studded aircraft of some kind
Was it more true to itself as cloud or aircraft?
Was it a hallucination?
Against my testimony can be put my admitted lack of sleep and our involvement with psychedelic plants
Yet curiously this last point can be interpreted in my favor
I am familiar by direct experience with every known class of hallucinogen
What I saw that morning did not fall into any of the categories of hallucinated imagery I am familiar with
Yet also against my testimony is the inevitable incongruous detail
That seems to render the entire incident absurd
It is that as the saucer passed overhead
I saw it clearly enough to judge that it was identical with the ufo with three half spheres on its underside
That appears in an infamous photo by george adamski widely assumed to be a hoax
I had not closely followed the matter
But I accepted the expert opinion that what adamski had photographed was a rigged up end cap of a
1937 hoover vacuum cleaner
But I saw this same object in the sky above la charrera
was it a fact picked up
As a boyhood ufo enthusiast something as easily picked out of my mind as other memories seem to have been
My stereotyped but already debunked notion of a ufo suddenly appears in the sky
By appearing in a form that casts doubt on itself
It achieves a more complete cognitive dissonance than if its seeming alienness were completely convincing
It was if you ask me and there is no one else really that you can ask
Either a holographic image of a technological perfection impossible on earth today
Or it was the manifestation of a something which in that instance chose to begin as mist and end as machine
But which could have appeared in any form a manifestation of a humorous somethings
omniscient control over the world of form and
matter and
I flash forward two paragraphs in the previous paragraph. I had had been discussing
mirages and I said an ordinary mirage is something that we see in space that isn't there
could there be mirages in time in other words could there be reflections of distant technologies that haunt
space the way images of distant cities haunt time haunt space
I believe that this latter comes close to the mark the ufo is a reflection of a future event
That promises humanity's eventual mastery over time space and matter
We in our clumsy attempt to probe these mysteries we meaning my brother and myself
We're able to coax nature into throwing out this great burning scintilla of pure contradiction
from the dark retort where she labors over the chemistry of the millennium
That we were able to do this is full of import
It meant to me that we were on the right track
The stropharia cubensis mushroom is a memory bank of galactic history
Alien but full of promise
It throws open a potential for understanding that will sweep away the petty concerns of earth and history-bound humanity
So that was
The encounter not the only encounter the book is full of weird shit
But that is actually in a sense the most conventional presentation
Of the encounter it was absolutely convincing
It was the adamski disk which I do believe is malarkey
it was
as cognitively dissonant as it could possibly be you see because if it were convincing in its alienness
You would know what you were dealing with a ufo from another star system obviously
But what are we to make of a 45 foot diameter hoover end cap?
Sailing through the blue skies of the amazon
Well
I've given a lot of thought to these
questions
Because my method has always been rational
In other words
I hear about something weird
And I go there and I say what can you show me?
What have you got?
I applied this to yogans in india
ufos
fairy sightings
reason
But a willingness to explore
the edges
has been
the method
method
And when I applied that method to the spiritual traditions
of
uh
mystical india
I came away with
uh
considerable skepticism
as to their accomplishments in that domain
at least in the contemporary scene
uh
I have never seen
a violation of physics
that was not connected
somehow
with a psychedelic experience
my
entry into psychedelics
began very naively
it was presented as
instant psychotherapy
or
insight
however vaguely defined
what I discovered
when you make your way through these chemical families
is that not all psychedelics are alike
and this very small family of compounds
called the tryptamine halicinogens
bear
careful
examination
if we're seriously
interested
in this question
of extraterrestrial penetration
of the human world
on two grounds
immediately
the mushroom
bears looking at
first argument
entirely
a physical argument
psilocybin
is
for
phosphoroxy
nn dimethyltryptamine
what this means is
is that
there is a phosphorus group
substituted
at the four position
of the molecule
now here's the headline
folks
this is the only
four phosphorylated
indole
on this planet
planet
now
if you were searching
for extraterrestrial
thumbprints
on the biology of earth
you would look for molecules
that are unique
that cannot
don't have
near relatives
spread through
other life forms
in psilocybin
we have a perfect example of this
it is the only
four phosphorylated
indole known to occur
in nature
nature doesn't work
like that folks
nature builds
always
on what has previously
been accomplished
so this is a red flag
saying at the molecular level
this thing looks like an alien
artifact
at the molecular level
now let's cut to the chase
what happens when you take
30 milligrams of this stuff
i don't know how sophisticated
this audience is
people who have never taken
hallucinogenic drugs
but have some mild interest in it
or just in the course of
generally educating yourself
about reality
i think people who have never
taken psychedelics
think that it's
sort of like dreaming while
you're awake
or geometric patterns
colors
they always say
the colors
malarkey
the colors
forget the colors
it is not like that
psychedelic experiences
at effective doses
i'm not piddling doses
effective doses
are visionary scenarios
they are three-dimensional
unfoldments
of information
that is extraordinarily
complex
architectonically connected
and ordered
that's not what i want to talk about
i want to talk about
what is unique to psilocybin
is that overlaid over what i just described
is big surprise
a voice
everybody knows this
who has to do with this stuff
gordon wasson
richard schultes
albert hoffman
the giants
know that this stuff
is animate
this is not a drug
it's something which is disguising itself
as a drug
in order not to spread alarm
there is a voice
a voice
which speaks to you
in the language of your homeland
whether that be mazatecan
or english
and the voice
surprises you
in other words you cannot anticipate it
now of course at this point
though i don't
imagine many of them have forced their way in here
the psychological school
will come forward and say well it's a voice
the typical of mental aberration
symptom one of schizophrenia
a voice
yes
we are not naive we read that we went to the same schools you did
thank you
however
the fact that this voice is accessible to non-pathological personalities
and on demand
is highly suggestive i think
next point
ah but let me belabor the point
this experience is available to everyone
the thing i love about psychedelics is
no guru
no method
no teacher
you don't need any of that crap
this will work
if it doesn't work the first time you didn't take enough
this will work
it will work on you mr. MIT engineer
with your diagrams of anti-matter propulsion systems
it will work on anybody
i started out from that place
uh okay that's the first thing
now this small family of compounds
of which psilocybin
is an interesting example
because it occurs in the mushroom
and let me say this
it's my workshop we'll do it my way
what troubles me about
the uf the current state of ufo modeling
is how incredibly pedestrian
the alien is assumed to be
i mean their little gray suits
their charmingly slanted eyes
their cheerful interest in our reproductive capacity
i mean i think that the alien
will be so alien
that your jaw will hang in the air
and expecting to meet
an anthropoid like alien with an interest in your reproductive machinery
and gross industrial capacity
is as culture bound a concept as searching ngc 321 for a good italian restaurant
it's absurd
on the face of it
let us for a moment hypothesize
aliens
somebody the guy before me spoke of being a hundred thousand years in advance
if you want to know how far in advance you are if you're a hundred thousand years in advance
ask yourself where were we a hundred thousand years ago
and i think you see the pro the gap is is uh is very large
if
we are in fact being penetrated by a non-human intelligence
that presumably somehow perhaps not physically but perhaps physically can cross from star to star
then we are dealing with something vastly more sophisticated than ourselves
that's just given at the get-go
well if it's vastly more advanced than we are
then dna sequencing
uh complete understanding of the molecular genesis of thought
so forth and so on would be no problem
for that level of technical sophistication you would also like to think that
Ethics and good taste would it keep pace with this evolutionary process?
So to my mind the idea of fleets of alien spacecraft filling the skies of earth
That's as unsubtle as kicking down somebody's front door with an M1 tank to announce we're here
I don't think you would do it that way if you really wanted to study a
Aboriginal race and you really had a hot
technology what you would do is you would study their social psychology and you would say are there any
chinks in the armor of their
expectations about how reality behaves and you would discover in
studying us
this species
Intoxicates itself and it has a curious attitude towards its
intoxications
anything goes
so if somebody drinks a pint of stolic naya and
Announces that they see pink elephants
We are all amused. We said of course you do you were drunk out of your mind
Now isn't it obvious
that an alien would hide its presence in an intoxication
that this is the non-invasive
tasteful
respectful
way to have intercourse with another species you say you put yourself into a plant you put a barcode
into a molecule
then the shaman intoxicates himself and he says aha it's an ancestor spirit or it's the soul of the plant
but whatever it is it's giving me good information it's telling me where the reindeer went it's telling me what the weather will be next week
it's telling me what the weather will be next week it's telling me who stole the goose and it's telling me who slept with who and it's telling me who
it's telling me who among the ill members of my tribe will live and who will die and
with that information I can make a political career
as a healer
so you see
The extraterrestrial is a mean trader the extraterrestrial is trading data
giving data
Giving data maybe but I think trading because it's taking something away
So first it tells you where the reindeer have gone and who's sleeping with who later. It suggests things like
alphabets
Later still it suggests things like the calculus
Do you see where it's leading all of human history is?
the signifier of
the presence of the alien
human history is what happens to an advanced animal species
When it is inner penetrated on a scale of a million years by a mind in another dimension
we were
Selected out of the swift running river of animal organization
took an orthogonal turn and headed out into the world of symbolic activity
cognition
signification
ritual
analysis
projection
the flying saucers
the alien the other is
What is sculpting us out of animal organization?
organization as we move toward it in time?
This is what shamanism is all about. This is what the psychedelic people are discovering as they
Descend into these trances. Well, okay. Well one more thing and then I'll leave that given the interests of this crowd
Mushrooms cannot be found in the fossil record older than 40 million years
You say ask a straight paleontologist. Why and he says it's because they're soft-bodied and none survived older than that
We have soft-bodied creatures in the burgess shale that are dating out at 3.8 billion
years
if you assume a
A super technology it means that the species that holds that technology can design itself
It is not subject to this tyranny of whatever form it inherits from the evolutionary
Processes of its home planet
Even we in our primitive state are on the brink of being able to design ourselves
through genetic
manipulation
Therefore look at
Stroferiocubensis the psychedelic mushroom spores are the most
Electron dense organic material known
the electron density of the outer case of a spore approaches that of a metal a
Single mushroom in the sporulation phase can shed up to 3 million spores a minute
For up to six weeks
One
Mushroom can do this
I maintain following brace well that a strategy for extraterrestrial contact
Carried on by a super technology would take the following form build a probe
Give the probe
Give the probe the ability to replicate itself
Start these probes out from your home planet and that every
Say every half a you or something the probe replicates
So that the volume of probes stays constant as the volume of space increases
If you're carrying out an exhaustive search of the galaxy for life
It's very hard to imagine a civilization that could visit every star and monitor every star over long periods of time
A much more efficient strategy would be the phone home strategy
You send
Essentially a credit card which says if you get this message call the enclosed toll-free number and immediately report your location
We will come at that point
That's I think what's going on human history is the effort to phone home
Human history is the effort to decode a message in the terrestrial environment of this planet that shamans and dreamers and mystics and let's throw in a few schizophrenics and out and out screwballs have been accessing for millennia and it's not new
It's very very old and it cannot be without significance
That the Mayan civilization which used these mushrooms became obsessed with 2012 AD
I who am absolutely phobic of obsessions in all forms
Am myself obsessed by December 21st 2012 AD
That's the bottom line of the barcode and my my notion of what's going on in the informational phase space of contemporary existence is that
We are under the influence of a kind of a tractor
This is this thing I mentioned which seized hold of us as a higher animal and steered us toward language ritual religion
The calculus so forth and so on
This attractor is
literally sucking
The world of three-dimensional space and time into itself
This is what history is
History is biological time turning into some other kind of time
History is speeding up as we approach the Omega point
And here is a granted idiotic but nevertheless serviceable metaphor for how this thing at the end of time works and
Why we are driven so nutty by things like flying saucers?
The transcendental attractor at the end of the historical process
Think of it like a one of those mirrored bar balls
That hang in a disco that catch the light and put
Sintillations on the walls as it spins around
As we approach the transcendental object at the end of time the reflections the precursive
Anticipations
What wordsworth called the intimations of immortality?
Grow ever stronger
The world is becoming more and more
Irrational more and more fraught with anomaly
You know not only flying saucers
But Bigfoot and the crop circles which are quite new as a wrinkle
There will be more and more of this stuff as we approach the moment of concrescence
And people in the past
Christ, Buddha, you name them
These are people who literally stood in a correct geometrical relationship
To the transcendental object at the end of time
But it was just dumb luck
That's all
They were not superior people
I'm sure that if you could enter into the mind of Christ as he went around Galilee
Performing his miracles
The main thing which preoccupied his inner circumlocution was the question
Why me?
You know what's happening?
Why am I compelled to do and say these things?
Well the the the answer is you've got eschatological fever
You've been infected by a retrovirus that operates not in space but in time
And to the degree that one can clear themselves of the momentum of past presupposition
The transcendental object at the end of time actually comes into view
Plato said time is the moving image of eternity
The way I think of shamanism and psychedelic voyaging is that it is trans dimensional travel
Literally not in some not not in the undefined way that you often hear it used
But in the mathematical sense a shaman and a psychedelic person and a ufo context
T is someone who has seen the end
They simply didn't know what they were looking at because who knows what the end looks like
The the world of historical possibility can presses into a mercurial hologrammatic disk
Part bios part machine part syntax part mind the categories
Dissolve the world is not what it appears to be
I was very interested in I
I was very interested in coming to this thing and studying the psychology of the group and it was very
Fascinating to me that both of the speakers where I listened to the whole thing were very concerned to refute the psychological
Explanation which I gather is the antichrist around here
And as I understand it somebody said to me the first thing they said to me I thought my god these people are on end
He said I want you to know that this union thing is bullshit said okay
That's fine
However
This is like beating a dead horse
Has the news from quantum physics not reached the ufo community?
Is it not now thoroughly?
Assimilated that an observer is necessary for reality to exist at all?
It's all psychological
There's no distinction
And so these people who have such enthusiasm for beryllium ships from our tourists or wherever
Should be informed you know same same
That's important news
It isn't now and where is it coming from?
Let's let's not rush past this here
Physics has always been the paradigmatic science
All sciences have physics envy
Why is that?
Because it's not unlikely in a physics experiment
To be able to predict an experimental result
To three decimal points of accuracy
That's science
You don't get that in sociology
You don't get that in psychology
You don't even get that in biology
And and physics is the most mathematical of all the sciences
So around the towering edifice of physics
The more frightened and uncertain of the sciences had gathered near her skirts
Well so now what is physics telling us?
Saying folks hold your horses here
It turns out the cheerful world of billiard ball like atoms
Winging their way through Newtonian space
Is in for serious revision
It turns out that these particles aren't even particles
They're waves
Well no not exactly
They're both
Well what I actually meant to say was
And you discover the babble of mad people
Science has collapsed
Its core has given way to contradiction
The cheerful exploration of matter that begins with the Greeks
Is destroyed by Werner Heisenberg
And all his evil grandchildren
Who now show
That you know
Number one
It's incomprehensible
Number two
It's self-contradictory
Number three
You can't
Conceptualize it
Except in some enormously complicated mathematical phase space
Anyway
So this concern for the materiality of the saucers
Is a completely anachronistic issue
Carried far enough
The analysis of this stage will show you
That it has no quote reality to it
Now this play is nicely right into my hands
Let's go back now to those drug induced hallucinations
You know I think every
Every UFO investigator in the country
They have these forms
When they come rushing out to your house
When you report an 11 mile long green cigars overhead
And the first question is
Are you intoxicated?
Do you have a history of taking drugs?
What is your relationship to altered states?
This is a complete fascism
Most encounters with extraterrestrials
Take place in altered states
That's what altered states are
Reality is you know
The tip of an iceberg of irrationality
That we've managed to drag ourselves up onto
For a few panting moments
Before we slip back into the sea of the unreal
What this means then
Just to cut to the chase
Is that
Psychedelic drugs
Are as important
To the study of UFOs
As the telescope was
To the redefining of astronomy
You can meet the alien
Tomorrow night
If your connections are good enough
And you can meet the alien
Over and over and over again
You said this was what you wanted
Baby
It's on its way
It's being served
The anxiety
That society feels about psychedelic drugs
And notice
Psychedelic drugs do not cause addiction
Ruin lives
Or inspire people to rob banks
Or any of that
Psychedelic drugs
Nothing has ever been adduced against them
Except that they give you funny ideas
Well I think this is a crowd familiar
With being stigmatized for dealing in funny ideas
They haven't made UFOs illegal
But they certainly have made psychedelics illegal
This is because
This is the portal
The secret is out
It isn't going to be a top-down revelation
It isn't going to come on
McNeil-Lerror
Or the cover of Time
There will not be an announcement
From the White House press office
Anybody who has that vision
Of how it works
Has completely given away their own power
You are not to be a consumer
Of the UFO
It is not for your amusement
It is for your transformation
And you can play the game
Of waiting
With the uninitiated
Or you can simply
Go look at the end of the movie
Shamans have been doing this
For at least
Probably a hundred thousand years
And it's a
It's a process
Of opening
To an experience
Not an ideology
It's not an ideology
It's an experience
The UFO thing
Began as an experience
The Rainier lights
The rest of it
It was quickly seized upon
By ideologues
The contactees of the 50's
Now there are new ideologues
The problem is
Everybody claims
Too much information
You know
I mean
Where does it end?
People who have exact information
On the geography of Atlantis
Or the pecking orders
Of distant planets
And this sort of thing
I mean
There are rules of evidence
And
What can't pass through that filter
Has to be discarded
I think
That
The real other
Need not be guarded
By the frail efforts
Of occult apologists
The real other
Can be hammered on
With a ball peen hammer
And it will do
Just fine
Thank you
So
I want to suggest
And I am very delighted
To have the opportunity
The UFO community
Has a great database
Of experience
With weirdness
Now you need to just
Take it
One vibratory level
Over
And
Cut your teeth
On what we have been
Putting up with
For years
Which is
These alien entities
That are so easily
Contacted
And dealt with
Through the intercession
Of the psilocybin
And DMT
Family
Of compounds
I want to describe
My DMT experience
Just to let you know
How alien it is
And then we can
Discuss this a little
I described
The psilocybin experience
Or I mentioned
That it is a voice
DMT
Which is a near relative
Of psilocybin
Psilocybin
I mentioned
4-phosphoroxy
NNDMT
Now I want to talk
About NNDMT
This is a compound
The commonest
Halicinogen
In nature
Note that
Because if an alien
Were spreading
Halicinogens around
This would be
The one to look at
It's the commonest one
You smoke it
It only lasts
Three to seven minutes
Not long folks
Anybody can invest
Three to seven minutes
I would think
In an experiment
Which might alter
Your complete ontology
What happens
When you smoke DMT
Well here's what happens
To me
There is a mandalic pattern
Which forms
Which is identifiable
As what pharmacologists
Call preliminary hypnagogia
It just simply means
That
The brain mind system
Is saying
Yes exotic indoles
Are arriving
At the synaptic receptors
In unexpected numbers
Yes
We are monitoring
This situation
Yes
Okay
That goes on
For about
Thirty seconds
And then you are
Propelled through
It
Into a place
A place
Not a state of mind
A place
And this place
Has its low
It's no higher
Than this ceiling
And it's actually
About the size
Of this room
But rounded
Soffited
Lighting
Indirect
Lighting
But the main
Action
Is you are
Instantly
Plunged
Into an environment
Of elf
Intelligence
Self transforming
Machine elves
I call these things
Or tykes
Just for want
Of a better
Name
They are not
Cheerfully
Portrayed
And suitable
Material
T-shirts
And coffee
Mugs
They are
Self transforming
Jeweled
Basketball
Like things
It's not clear
They are made
Of matter
They are made
Of light
Their status
And the phylogeny
Of biology
Is extraordinarily
Murky
And they
Come pounding
Forward
Like badly
Trained dogs
Cheering
They say
Here you are
You may all recall
Some of you may recall
That old Pink Floyd song
The gnomes have learned
A new way
To say
Hooray
So there you are
Now
20 seconds before
You were in an apartment
Somewhere
With your scuzzy friends
Doing drugs
Now
That's gone
And you are
In this place
Being confronted
By these entities
And one of the things
They do
That's quite disconcerting
Is they come
Jumping up
Or dribbling up
To you
And then they will
Sort of vibrate
In place
Then they jump
Into your chest
Then they jump
Back out
But the main thing
Is
They are doing
Something
Very
Interesting
What they're doing
Is
They
I call
The reason I call them
Language Elves
Is because
They possess
An
Ontos
Of language
That is completely
Alien
To us
They
Use a language
Which you can
See
They can
Condense
Meaning
Before your very eyes
For them
Syntax
Is not
Acoustical
Rules
Its
Pictorial
Rules
And they are doing this
They will scramble
Forward
Elbowing each other
Jumping up and down
Very excited
And they say
Look at this
And they
Pull objects
Sing objects
Into existence
And show them
To you
And as your attention
Goes into these things
You
Are
It's
The emotion
Is indescribable
These objects
Are made
Of gold
Ivory
Smaragdine
Chalcedony
Beryllium
Terbium
Flesh
Gold
Blood
Heat
Tears
And it's all
Changing
Morphing
As you look at it
And as you look at this
You have without
An iota
Of doubt
The conviction
If i could bring this thing across
It would end human history
Argument would cease
You would just say
Look
At this
And they're pushing each other away
Showing you look at this one
Look at this one
These objects themselves emit sound
And make other objects
The whole thing is going on
In an atmosphere of incredible hilarity and confusion
It's now one minute since you left your scuzzy friends in that badly furnished apartment
Naturally
Naturally this
The fact that you're having this experience
Raises certain fundamental questions
Such as
Am i dead now
Is that what's happened
And the entities say
They say
Don't give way to amazement
Don't flip out
About how you can't believe it
And it's impossible
And so forth and so on
Don't do that
Just pay attention
Pay attention
To what we are doing
And what we are showing you
And what they preach
Is a new dispensation of language
A language that can be beheld
And as you sit there
You feel like a bubble form in your stomach
And begin to make its way to your mouth
And when it comes out
As a kind of a glossolalia
You discover that in that space
You too can make jeweled objects
With spinning interiors
And reflexively rotating sub themes
And so forth and so on
All driven by a kind of spontaneous glossolalia like verbal activity
That is very spontaneous and indescribable
But fortunately doable
It sounds like this
This is a pictorial activity
Now when I went to the Amazon
I discovered
I didn't discover
I went to
They've been known for years
Tribes of people
Using a halicinogen called ayahuasca
And when you take ayahuasca with these people
They sing
And then they have like little intermissions
And I would be in my horrible Spanish ear
Listening to these people
The guy next to me is saying
To the guy next to him
About the song
He says
I love the olive drab part
But when he got in
The song
He says
I love the olive drab part
But when he got in
The song
He says
I love the olive drab part
that thing with the silver on magenta I just thought it was tacky and I'm what
say what you realize these people for them sound is being transduced in the
visual cortex the ordinary processing of acoustical input is being shunted to
the visual cortex this is the same thing the DMT types are talking about and
these are the very jungle tribes that it's always been charged had group mind
telepathy ways of creating a social cohesion that was contravened reason this
is what's going on I think now I then studied this phenomenon of language very
carefully I mean I'd never even occurred to me of visual language I discovered
however that nature has anticipated this phenomenon in the organisms that are
known to us as octopi and cephalopods as you all know as you're probably graduates of
those horrible nature specials on TV octopi can change color most people think this
is camouflage it isn't camouflage it is language octopi control an enormous
repertoire of what are called traveling dots blushes shadings striping wavy lines
and a huge color palette these exterior changes on the surface of the octopus are a
direct readout of its state of mind it wears its mind on its surface and you may not know but the third
gastrulation of the blastopore in the human fetus the it becomes the surface of the body the surface of
the body is brain tissue essentially a very thin sheet of brain tissue all over the
outside of the body that's why there's so many nerves in the skin so what seems to
be being preached in the DMT encounter is the ontological transformation of into a
telepathic mode now you may have thought telepathy was you hearing somebody else think
apparently that's not what telepathy is telepathy is you seeing what somebody else means it's the visual
acquisition of meaning rather than the audio acquisition of meaning because there is no ambiguity you see we
use local languages if your dictionary matches my dictionary you can understand me and that's fine if
we're saying you know could you close the door or get me a grant but if what we're saying if
we're talking about the ontology of language or the political obligations to the community in the light
of the inevitability of mortality or something like that then acoustically transduced sound and common
dictionaries don't cut the mustard one of the most uncool things you can say in any situation is would you
please explain to me what I just said because that rends the fabric and we're then faced in the mud of the
fact that nobody understands or even bothers to listen to anybody else and if they do they don't get it
anyway well I I think that we are on the collision course with a planet transforming event and that we
have been for a very very long time I also believe that it lies below the horizon of rational apprehension at
this point in time it's it's if you're in this game for fun there's lots of fun to be had if you're
in this game for final answers I suggest you take up geometry it will be much more satisfying there
isn't going to be closure I mean because after all don't lose sight of the fact that we're advanced monkeys
of some sort the idea that advanced monkeys could in fact unearth and then cognize the secret of the
universe is like expecting the same thing from termites or or you know muscles it's absurd it's ridiculous I
mean we are embedded in mystery our brains were evolved to keep us from being eaten by nearby hungry competitors
it is not a tool for philosophy philosophy comes later and I think that what the UFO community and what the
psychedelic community share is a tremendous impatience with science scientism and the fascism of scientism and
the way to overcome these things is to simply opt out of the historical game and avail yourselves of the shamanic tools which have
always been there the whisperings from the other dimension are probably a thousand millennia old
that's a million years that's the time that we have been sitting around campfires spinning yarns for each
other and looking up at the night sky we are not alone on this planet but it may be that we are the late
evolving intelligence the mushroom said to me once it said I said what are you doing here it said you're a
mushroom you live cheap I said but it said it was not such a bad neighborhood till the monkeys went berserk and
that was only yesterday so you see it isn't that they're coming to us from the stars it's that we are finally
having the scales far fall from our eyes to realize what it means to be on a water heavy oxygen rich planet with over two and a half
billion years of biological history already neatly tucked under the belt I mean the the the peculiarities and singularities that have been built into our
our circumstance I believe would literally stand our hair on end and the only way the only way to make your way through this morass of claim and counterclaim is do not move your faith and iota beyond your own direct
experience if you haven't seen a ufo believe no one no photograph no testimony no nothing because it's all
everything is contaminated forget ufos take mount everest have you seen it then for you it doesn't exist i saw
it it couldn't possibly be the world's largest mountain i could hold it between this finger and this finger
so then if you limit yourself to direct experience does that mean that you're shit out of luck
no it means that you have arrived at the beginning of the real path toward the saucer because you don't want
to hear that whitley streber bud hopkins walked in through the purple doorway and was never seen again
you want to be the person to walk through the purple doorway and never be seen again well i guarantee you
it's uh more easily done than you might wish to suppose uh but you're going to have to um avail yourself
of the shamanic technology which is a super technology uh of the shamanic technology that we inherit
from the archaic civilizations not everybody fell into physics worship and materialism the rainforest
cultures the aboriginal cultures have kept the channel open while we dithered and mucked about in the
historical process materialism scientism positivism you name it but the doorway lies open the problem is it
requires an act of courage real courage because it's real it's absolutely real but the sine qua non is the
psychedelic molecule it was designed this way it isn't that it's impossible to encounter these things in any
other fashion but it's impossible to coherently encounter them in any other fashion uh because that's the part that is
obtruding into the social sphere and that's the area where contention control informational viruses
disinformation false testimony uh hidden agendas are totally corrupting of the phenomenon but you can get it down
to you and it if you will simply avail yourself of the psychedelic tools that nature created and that shamanism
places at our disposal that's where the frontier of this hyper-technical fantasy is headed toward a revivification
of knowledge systems that were ancient when the pyramids were not yet even a gleam in the eye
questions thank you very much it's lots of fun you have no idea how much fun this is yeah
i have two questions uh one are you aware of any psychedelics being used in ancient greece around
the time of plato or aristotle sure um you should read the road to eleusis by wasson and hoffman that
argues very persuasively that an lsd-like alkaloid lay behind the eleusinian mysteries that was that was the
great mystery religion that inspired all of the movers and shakers of of the hellenistic world
and your second question good question serotonin is a neurotransmitter that occurs in almost all life
it occurs from flat worms to human beings and interestingly as you ascend the phylogeny there is
more and more serotonin more in mammals than in any other major order of animals more in uh primates
than in any other kind of mammal and more in man than in any other primate serotonin is five hydroxy
tryptamine dmt i'm sorry psilocybin four phosphoryloxy and then dmt although it must be said
that the phosphorus group is clipped off almost immediately and it becomes silicin uh for hydroxy and
in dimethyltryptamine uh i believe that on one level what's happening is that there is a kind of
evolutionary competition going on obviously some neurotransmitters are more efficient than others
and it may be that we are only a one or two gene mutation away from a swapping out of serotonin
for some more efficient whatever that might mean neurotransmitter now romantically wouldn't it be nice
if psilocybin were it i suspect it isn't because psilocybin is not known to be elaborated in the tissue of
any higher animal but what's a good candidate is uh there is an enzyme in the pineal gland called a
deneroglomerotropine that chemically analyzed turns out to be harmaline it's a beta-carboline
it's it's for hydroxy tetrahydroharmaline these harming molecules are part of the mystery
incredibly bioelectronically active with a structure that assimilates to the anjna chakra
and they are the uh molecules which are a part of the ayahuasca brew i think we're on the brink of a
tremendous evolutionary adventure and that it will involve physically redesigning ourselves look at
the mushroom i'm just to go off on a wild tear here mushrooms are what are called primary decomposers
fungi right means they only live off dead matter now vegetarianism is held up as a spiritual ideal
but compared to the strategy of mushrooms vegetarianism is an orgy of mass death
on an appalling scale uh so if perhaps the mushroom is essentially buddhist in its approach notice how
how non-invasive of the world of matter the mushroom is it forms a diaphanous network through the soil as
as tenuous as cobwebs and yet filled with neurotransmitters and you may remember from last
year it was discovered that the largest organisms on this planet are mushroom mycelial mats there they
cover acres they weigh more than blue whales and they're so old it's better not even to speak of it
uh this looks to me like this is what intelligence driven by ethical concern for life would design itself
into say no harm we want to be primary decomposers we want to be as diaphanous as cobwebs we want to
be a spore bearing life form that can percolate through the universe and we want to have instantaneous
access time to the galactic databases this is what the mushroom looks like and you know if you think
this is malarkey please do not intellectually evade the challenge that it poses you because if you think
this is malarkey then take mushrooms and tell me i'm full of that's all that's all you have to do you
you know it's easy you don't have to camp out on some mesa in new mexico for three weeks yeah
the only i think it was so the time or the or the trip to me how to say the only four
phosphoro indole and that makes it uh especially uh understandable something an alien would present
that's essentially correct because it's so unique yes because it's unique in other words
i can imagine a scenario like this uh a spore bearing life form somewhere in the universe
it does everything with the technology of dna and it you see these spores actually can survive in the
environment of outer space i mean that's what they love if you store spores you store them at 220
degrees below zero in liquid nitrogen you store them in an outer space like environment well you can
imagine a spore drifting in here inculcating itself into the environment and then play uh carrying out
a complete survey and then isn't it strange that these mushrooms were right in our paths as we left the
trees and descended onto the african grassland my book food of the gods i argued uh that uh uh i thought
of a joke about food of the gods that i won't belabor it with no no it was something about smorgasbord of
the gods but i argued that psilocybin is what propelled us into humanness but i didn't discuss
the potential alien origin of the mushroom itself i just said there is an x factor in human history
something caused the human brain size to double in about a million years no straight anthropologist or
evolutionary primatologist has a clue as to what it was and i think that psilocybin is like an enzyme for
cognitive activity and that it coaxed out of us language theater art religion poetry all of these
things and it created a kind of partnership paradise a role appropriate about sexually balanced gender
honoring child sensitive nature sensitive civilization and that all fell to pieces about 15
10,000 years ago and we have been on you know a death march into hell ever since as soon as you get
agriculture you get surplus that gives you haves and have-nots and the need to beat out the brains of
people who are not in your social group because they're trying to get at your grain storage
agriculture means the end of nomadism it means sedentary populations it means cities it means standing
armies male kingship hierarchical structures law all of the stuff that is so odious and horrible and that
has led us so wrong i mean it may have seemed like a good idea at ur but we're the unhappy inheritors of the
consequence of six thousand years of unopposed dominator culture and what have we got a shattered
atmosphere toxified oceans schizophrenic populations and mendacious politicians this is not what our parents
raised us for folks a woman yeah
the indole gets created people respond to it and then are drawn to it and they keep on co-evolving
together as people evolve they find new and more substances that they can then go further with
does it have to be a teacher from outside introducing these things to simple animals
no it doesn't you're quite right i mean i'm not at all clear on the location of these things
the people who just assume that these are that metal ships from other star systems arrive here
have a lot of explaining to do i mean i i was fascinated by the last speaker with the you don't
go there you grab the space and move it to you well then obviously the question is well how do you grab it
you know something crosses that stellar distance instantly and i don't think you can fake your way
around it it's a tough nut to crack now there may be uh i think it's there's an image and i'll we're
getting close to the end so i'll leave you with it because it amuses me so much as you know the world's
largest radio telescope is at arecibo puerto rico and as you probably know a multi-million channel
analyzer has been attached to that thing and there's been funding for another deep space search and so
there they are at arecibo with the world's largest radio telescope reaching out you know mega merubi
sticks into the universe when you actually go there the telescope was built into a natural bowl
which they made further they rounded out and then they planted grass in this bowl to halt erosion
well then to keep the grass from getting out of hand they brought in white cows to crop the grass
so there in the grass beneath the world's largest radio telescope engaged in searching for extraterrestrial
life is the mushroom in great profusion if you wanted it that's where you'd go and get it and that is the
perfect symbol for how we search for extraterrestrial life it's at your feet my friends thank you very very
much i may have been a little premature is there somebody so terribly disappointed that now they
realize they've telepathically ordered me to answer one more question if you attack me i'll kill you
a practical man and have i got an answer for you uh it's ordinarily that question is very hard to answer dmt occurs
in certain fish uh and in many plants but never in any very great concentration uh there is a magazine
called psychedelic illuminations and in a move that i'm sure will become legendary for its recklessness
in the most recent issue uh they published the absolute synthesis for dmt and i noticed they have a booth
downstairs oh here you can recognize that it has the face of a maniac on it
so that's where you get uh dmt and good luck to you thank you very very much

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