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UFO The Inside Outsider

Terence McKenna / audio 1:24:33 ~83 MB opus 138 kb/s

Terence McKenna recounts his personal sighting of a saucer-shaped aircraft in the Amazon basin while exploring tryptamine hallucinogens with his brother. The object manifests as lens-shaped clouds that divide and rejoin before solidifying into a rotating machine with soft blue and orange lights, passing directly overhead at 200 feet. McKenna examines this encounter with both rigor and skepticism, noting the cognitive dissonance that the craft matched the Adamski photographs widely dismissed as hoaxes. He then develops his thesis that psilocybin and DMT are not mere drugs but entities bearing intelligence, and that psychedelics reveal an alien presence embedded in terrestrial biology for millions of years. McKenna argues that genuine contact with non-human intelligence lies not in observing the night sky but in engaging the nervous system through shamanic tools that have worked for millennia.

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Sorted the converted from the doubters and once again, we're preaching to the choir

What happened to all those other folks?

Anyway, maybe they didn't have the scratch

Well, that may that's legitimate reason certainly

Anyway, it's very nice to be here. I come in peace for all mankind

So and womankind as well, if I may dare to represent them

The way I thought I would structure the the thing is

Basically read a bit from my new book which I hope then

establishes my credentials as an authentic

UFO witness and possible

Abductee and then I'll talk a little bit about what I think about it

Because I don't think about it what most people think about it

My dream from the time I was eight or nine

Was to encounter a UFO because I always had the impression that if you would encounter one

You could understand it

That it was maddening to realize that seemed to have a great affinity for people who live in trailer course

But very little affinity for anybody I knew and so you

Constantly had to filter these eyewitness reports by people that you wouldn't send to the corner store to buy milk

So this was a problem and it will haunt. I'm sure it haunts many of you who have never encountered a uf.o

So I'll read the description of the encounter then talk a little bit about my conclusions and ideas about it and then we can just

Have a discussion

I guess I should say a little bit about my method. I really am a fence-sitter

I loathe science and

am always keen to attack it in most

situations though not here because I love the reason and

I'm perfectly aware of the difference. I

Also know what it what a concept means like rules of evidence

I'm not sure that's a concept as

widely circulated in these circles as it needs to be in other words

How do you tell shit from Shinola? That's very critical

And I'm I think reason

Can take us only a certain distance and then we have to go

We have to go with the divine imagination

But with all safety systems fully in operation

Or the divine imagination will lead us into complete paranoia

This is what happens to a body of knowledge

When it's unable to make good on its first premises

In other words, if you have a great notion of reality

But you can't confirm it

Then it must be because evil forces are conspiring against you and somehow

Subverting the success of your neat version of reality

And as someone who at one point in my life studied the history of science

There have been many episodes in the history of science where great hope gave way to paranoia

Where great hope gave way to paranoia

The phlogiston

Phenomenon is one example or

Lysenko and genetics

And you know it's been what 47 years since the rain near lights or close to it

And the phenomenon has not become more explicit

The hysteria has become more explicit and has wandered first in one direction and then another

But if this is a contact

It's the most peculiarly un-contact like contact

It's possible to imagine

It's always it reminds me of people say of the crop circles

You know they're communicating

Yes, but if they are they picked an incredibly obscure medium in which to do it

Because we who love communication can glean very little from what they're trying to say

Well enough barn beating

Let me read this passage

And then i'll talk more about it

And this will bring i think the

The thing into focus

I have to introduce the context

Because it wasn't like

That we just happen to be driving in a lonely and remote place and suddenly

No, it wasn't like that

We were in the center of the amazon basin

We had come there

To explore tryptamine

Halicinogens

These are short-acting very powerful psychedelic drugs

And the reason we were so interested in these drugs

Is because in encounters with it in the pure

Chemical form

It was invariably

The intoxication was invariably characterized

By encounters with elves

Gnomes

Fairies

Thousands of these things

And this was

And this is something i'm going to

You know try and convince the ufo community of

What we drug people have that you don't

Is repeatability

And the scientists always said

To you ufo people

What you don't have

Is repeatability

They don't want to even talk to us

But it is true

That that when you smoke dmt for example

At a sufficiently high and prepared dose

You get elves

Everybody does

You may not believe it

But on the other hand it only takes five minutes

To prove that i'm bullshitting you a hundred percent

Surely anyone who studied ufos and alien intelligence

For as many years as the people represented here have

Can afford to invest 10 minutes

In the wild-eyed assertion

That all you need do

Is inhale deeply three times

And you know you want contact

You want elves

You want alien intelligence you'll have it up the kazoo

Now of course it comes from an unsanctioned dimension

But i'll talk more about that after the reading

So here we were in the amazon basin

experimenting with mushrooms

And here is the passage

And so

All night long

I sat reviewing the things that had passed

Seeming to divide my consciousness

And send it both backward through my family tree

And forward into the future

I seem to see all the years still ahead

I saw some technique emerging from this contact

Our careers pursued across time and space

And finally vindication as the world realized the truth

of the trans-dimensional nature

of the stropharia visions

And the true nearness of the worlds that they had thrown open

For it had become my belief

That the contact with an intelligent and utterly alien species

Was beginning for humanity

It seemed that out of the long night of cosmic time

The novelty of novelties

The moment of contact between minds on utterly different planes was beginning

We were among the first to achieve contact with this other

It was the real thing

We had come to the equatorial jungle to explore the dimensions

Glimpsed in tryptamine ecstasy

And there in the darkness of the heart of the amazon

We had been found and touched by this bizarre and ancient life form

That was now awakening to the global potential of a symbiotic relationship

With technical humanity

All night long strange vistas and insights poured through me

I saw gigantic machineries and worlds of vegetable and mechanical forms

On scales inconceivably vast

Time agitized and glittering seemed to pour by me like living super fluids

Inhabiting dream regions of terrible pressure and super cold

And I saw the plan

The mighty plan

At last

It was an ecstasy

An ecstasis that lasted hours

And placed the seal of completion on all of my previous life

At the end I felt reborn

But as what I knew not

In the gray light of a false dawn

And I should say I wasn't loaded

I was insomniac

In the gray light of a false dawn

The wave of internal imagery faded away

I rose from where I had been sitting for hours and stretched

The sky was clear but it was still very early

And stars were still shining dimly in the west

In the southeast the direction toward which my attention had been focused

The sky was clear except for a line of fog or ground mist lying parallel

To the horizon only a few feet above the treetops on the other side of the river

Perhaps a half mile away

As I stretched and stood up on the flat stone where I had been sitting

I noticed that the line of fog seemed to have grown darker

And now seemed to be churning or rolling in place

I watched very carefully as the rolling line of darkening mist split into two parts

And each of these smaller clouds also divided apart

It took only a minute or so for these changes to be executed

And I was now looking at four lens-shaped clouds of the same size

Lying in a row and slightly above the horizon only a half mile or so away

A wave of excitement swept through me followed by a wave of definite fear

I was glued to the spot unable to move as in a dream

As I watched the clouds re-coalesced in the same way that they had divided apart

Taking another few minutes

The symmetry of this dividing and rejoining and the fact that the smaller clouds were all the same size

Lent the performance an eerie air

As if nature herself were suddenly the tool of some unseen organizing agency

As the clouds re-coalesced they seemed to grow even darker and more opaque

As they all became one

The clouds seemed to whirl inward like a tornado or a water spout

And it flashed into my mind

Perhaps it was a water spout

Something I still have never seen

But even as the thought formed I heard a high-pitched

Uulating whine

Whee! Whee! Whee!

Come drifting over the jungle treetops

Obviously from the direction of the thing I was watching

I turned and gave one glance at the river house 70 feet behind me and up the steep hill

Gauging whether I had time to run and awaken someone to get confirmation of what was happening

To arouse someone I would have had to go hand over hand

Up the slope and consequently take my eyes off the thing I was watching

In the space of an instant

I decided that I could not cease observing

I tried to shout

But no sound came from my fear constricted throat

The siren sound was rapidly gaining pitch

And in fact everything seemed to be speeding up

The moving cloud was definitely growing rapidly larger

Moving straight toward the place where I was

I felt my legs turn to water and sat down shaking terribly

For the first time I really believed all that had happened to us

And I knew that the flying concrescence was now about to take me

Its details seemed to solidify as it approached

Then it passed directly overhead at an altitude of about 200 feet

Banked steeply upward and was lost from sight over the edge of the slope behind me

In the last moment before it was lost I completely threw open my senses to it

And saw it very clearly

It was a saucer shaped machine

Rotating slowly with unobtrusive soft blue and orange lights

As it passed over me I could see symmetrical indentations on the underside

It was making the hui hui hui sound of science fiction flying saucers

My emotions were all in a jumble

At first I was terrified

But the moment I knew that whatever was in the sky was not going to take me

I felt disappointment

I was amazed and I was trying to remember what I had seen as clearly as possible

Was it real in the naive sense in which that question is asked of ufos and tables and chairs

No one else saw this thing as far as I know

I alone was its observer

I believe that had there been other observers

They would have seen

What I had seen

But as for real

Who can say

I saw this thing go from being a bit of cloud to being a rivet studded aircraft of some kind

Was it more true to itself as cloud or aircraft?

Was it a hallucination?

Against my testimony can be put my admitted lack of sleep and our involvement with psychedelic plants

Yet curiously this last point can be interpreted in my favor

I am familiar by direct experience with every known class of hallucinogen

What I saw that morning did not fall into any of the categories of hallucinated imagery I am familiar with

Yet also against my testimony is the inevitable incongruous detail

That seems to render the entire incident absurd

It is that as the saucer passed overhead

I saw it clearly enough to judge that it was identical with the ufo with three half spheres on its underside

That appears in an infamous photo by george adamski widely assumed to be a hoax

I had not closely followed the matter

But I accepted the expert opinion that what adamski had photographed was a rigged up end cap of a

1937 hoover vacuum cleaner

But I saw this same object in the sky above la charrera

was it a fact picked up

As a boyhood ufo enthusiast something as easily picked out of my mind as other memories seem to have been

My stereotyped but already debunked notion of a ufo suddenly appears in the sky

By appearing in a form that casts doubt on itself

It achieves a more complete cognitive dissonance than if its seeming alienness were completely convincing

It was if you ask me and there is no one else really that you can ask

Either a holographic image of a technological perfection impossible on earth today

Or it was the manifestation of a something which in that instance chose to begin as mist and end as machine

But which could have appeared in any form a manifestation of a humorous somethings

omniscient control over the world of form and

matter and

I flash forward two paragraphs in the previous paragraph. I had had been discussing

mirages and I said an ordinary mirage is something that we see in space that isn't there

could there be mirages in time in other words could there be reflections of distant technologies that haunt

space the way images of distant cities haunt time haunt space

I believe that this latter comes close to the mark the ufo is a reflection of a future event

That promises humanity's eventual mastery over time space and matter

We in our clumsy attempt to probe these mysteries we meaning my brother and myself

We're able to coax nature into throwing out this great burning scintilla of pure contradiction

from the dark retort where she labors over the chemistry of the millennium

That we were able to do this is full of import

It meant to me that we were on the right track

The stropharia cubensis mushroom is a memory bank of galactic history

Alien but full of promise

It throws open a potential for understanding that will sweep away the petty concerns of earth and history-bound humanity

So that was

The encounter not the only encounter the book is full of weird shit

But that is actually in a sense the most conventional presentation

Of the encounter it was absolutely convincing

It was the adamski disk which I do believe is malarkey

it was

as cognitively dissonant as it could possibly be you see because if it were convincing in its alienness

You would know what you were dealing with a ufo from another star system obviously

But what are we to make of a 45 foot diameter hoover end cap?

Sailing through the blue skies of the amazon

Well

I've given a lot of thought to these

questions

Because my method has always been rational

In other words

I hear about something weird

And I go there and I say what can you show me?

What have you got?

I applied this to yogans in india

ufos

fairy sightings

reason

But a willingness to explore

the edges

has been

the method

method

And when I applied that method to the spiritual traditions

of

uh

mystical india

I came away with

uh

considerable skepticism

as to their accomplishments in that domain

at least in the contemporary scene

uh

I have never seen

a violation of physics

that was not connected

somehow

with a psychedelic experience

my

entry into psychedelics

began very naively

it was presented as

instant psychotherapy

or

insight

however vaguely defined

what I discovered

when you make your way through these chemical families

is that not all psychedelics are alike

and this very small family of compounds

called the tryptamine halicinogens

bear

careful

examination

if we're seriously

interested

in this question

of extraterrestrial penetration

of the human world

on two grounds

immediately

the mushroom

bears looking at

first argument

entirely

a physical argument

psilocybin

is

for

phosphoroxy

nn dimethyltryptamine

what this means is

is that

there is a phosphorus group

substituted

at the four position

of the molecule

now here's the headline

folks

this is the only

four phosphorylated

indole

on this planet

planet

now

if you were searching

for extraterrestrial

thumbprints

on the biology of earth

you would look for molecules

that are unique

that cannot

don't have

near relatives

spread through

other life forms

in psilocybin

we have a perfect example of this

it is the only

four phosphorylated

indole known to occur

in nature

nature doesn't work

like that folks

nature builds

always

on what has previously

been accomplished

so this is a red flag

saying at the molecular level

this thing looks like an alien

artifact

at the molecular level

now let's cut to the chase

what happens when you take

30 milligrams of this stuff

i don't know how sophisticated

this audience is

people who have never taken

hallucinogenic drugs

but have some mild interest in it

or just in the course of

generally educating yourself

about reality

i think people who have never

taken psychedelics

think that it's

sort of like dreaming while

you're awake

or geometric patterns

colors

they always say

the colors

malarkey

the colors

forget the colors

it is not like that

psychedelic experiences

at effective doses

i'm not piddling doses

effective doses

are visionary scenarios

they are three-dimensional

unfoldments

of information

that is extraordinarily

complex

architectonically connected

and ordered

that's not what i want to talk about

i want to talk about

what is unique to psilocybin

is that overlaid over what i just described

is big surprise

a voice

everybody knows this

who has to do with this stuff

gordon wasson

richard schultes

albert hoffman

the giants

know that this stuff

is animate

this is not a drug

it's something which is disguising itself

as a drug

in order not to spread alarm

there is a voice

a voice

which speaks to you

in the language of your homeland

whether that be mazatecan

or english

and the voice

surprises you

in other words you cannot anticipate it

now of course at this point

though i don't

imagine many of them have forced their way in here

the psychological school

will come forward and say well it's a voice

the typical of mental aberration

symptom one of schizophrenia

a voice

yes

we are not naive we read that we went to the same schools you did

thank you

however

the fact that this voice is accessible to non-pathological personalities

and on demand

is highly suggestive i think

next point

ah but let me belabor the point

this experience is available to everyone

the thing i love about psychedelics is

no guru

no method

no teacher

you don't need any of that crap

this will work

if it doesn't work the first time you didn't take enough

this will work

it will work on you mr. MIT engineer

with your diagrams of anti-matter propulsion systems

it will work on anybody

i started out from that place

uh okay that's the first thing

now this small family of compounds

of which psilocybin

is an interesting example

because it occurs in the mushroom

and let me say this

it's my workshop we'll do it my way

what troubles me about

the uf the current state of ufo modeling

is how incredibly pedestrian

the alien is assumed to be

i mean their little gray suits

their charmingly slanted eyes

their cheerful interest in our reproductive capacity

i mean i think that the alien

will be so alien

that your jaw will hang in the air

and expecting to meet

an anthropoid like alien with an interest in your reproductive machinery

and gross industrial capacity

is as culture bound a concept as searching ngc 321 for a good italian restaurant

it's absurd

on the face of it

let us for a moment hypothesize

aliens

somebody the guy before me spoke of being a hundred thousand years in advance

if you want to know how far in advance you are if you're a hundred thousand years in advance

ask yourself where were we a hundred thousand years ago

and i think you see the pro the gap is is uh is very large

if

we are in fact being penetrated by a non-human intelligence

that presumably somehow perhaps not physically but perhaps physically can cross from star to star

then we are dealing with something vastly more sophisticated than ourselves

that's just given at the get-go

well if it's vastly more advanced than we are

then dna sequencing

uh complete understanding of the molecular genesis of thought

so forth and so on would be no problem

for that level of technical sophistication you would also like to think that

Ethics and good taste would it keep pace with this evolutionary process?

So to my mind the idea of fleets of alien spacecraft filling the skies of earth

That's as unsubtle as kicking down somebody's front door with an M1 tank to announce we're here

I don't think you would do it that way if you really wanted to study a

Aboriginal race and you really had a hot

technology what you would do is you would study their social psychology and you would say are there any

chinks in the armor of their

expectations about how reality behaves and you would discover in

studying us

this species

Intoxicates itself and it has a curious attitude towards its

intoxications

anything goes

so if somebody drinks a pint of stolic naya and

Announces that they see pink elephants

We are all amused. We said of course you do you were drunk out of your mind

Now isn't it obvious

that an alien would hide its presence in an intoxication

that this is the non-invasive

tasteful

respectful

way to have intercourse with another species you say you put yourself into a plant you put a barcode

into a molecule

then the shaman intoxicates himself and he says aha it's an ancestor spirit or it's the soul of the plant

but whatever it is it's giving me good information it's telling me where the reindeer went it's telling me what the weather will be next week

it's telling me what the weather will be next week it's telling me who stole the goose and it's telling me who slept with who and it's telling me who

it's telling me who among the ill members of my tribe will live and who will die and

with that information I can make a political career

as a healer

so you see

The extraterrestrial is a mean trader the extraterrestrial is trading data

giving data

Giving data maybe but I think trading because it's taking something away

So first it tells you where the reindeer have gone and who's sleeping with who later. It suggests things like

alphabets

Later still it suggests things like the calculus

Do you see where it's leading all of human history is?

the signifier of

the presence of the alien

human history is what happens to an advanced animal species

When it is inner penetrated on a scale of a million years by a mind in another dimension

we were

Selected out of the swift running river of animal organization

took an orthogonal turn and headed out into the world of symbolic activity

cognition

signification

ritual

analysis

projection

the flying saucers

the alien the other is

What is sculpting us out of animal organization?

organization as we move toward it in time?

This is what shamanism is all about. This is what the psychedelic people are discovering as they

Descend into these trances. Well, okay. Well one more thing and then I'll leave that given the interests of this crowd

Mushrooms cannot be found in the fossil record older than 40 million years

You say ask a straight paleontologist. Why and he says it's because they're soft-bodied and none survived older than that

We have soft-bodied creatures in the burgess shale that are dating out at 3.8 billion

years

if you assume a

A super technology it means that the species that holds that technology can design itself

It is not subject to this tyranny of whatever form it inherits from the evolutionary

Processes of its home planet

Even we in our primitive state are on the brink of being able to design ourselves

through genetic

manipulation

Therefore look at

Stroferiocubensis the psychedelic mushroom spores are the most

Electron dense organic material known

the electron density of the outer case of a spore approaches that of a metal a

Single mushroom in the sporulation phase can shed up to 3 million spores a minute

For up to six weeks

One

Mushroom can do this

I maintain following brace well that a strategy for extraterrestrial contact

Carried on by a super technology would take the following form build a probe

Give the probe

Give the probe the ability to replicate itself

Start these probes out from your home planet and that every

Say every half a you or something the probe replicates

So that the volume of probes stays constant as the volume of space increases

If you're carrying out an exhaustive search of the galaxy for life

It's very hard to imagine a civilization that could visit every star and monitor every star over long periods of time

A much more efficient strategy would be the phone home strategy

You send

Essentially a credit card which says if you get this message call the enclosed toll-free number and immediately report your location

We will come at that point

That's I think what's going on human history is the effort to phone home

Human history is the effort to decode a message in the terrestrial environment of this planet that shamans and dreamers and mystics and let's throw in a few schizophrenics and out and out screwballs have been accessing for millennia and it's not new

It's very very old and it cannot be without significance

That the Mayan civilization which used these mushrooms became obsessed with 2012 AD

I who am absolutely phobic of obsessions in all forms

Am myself obsessed by December 21st 2012 AD

That's the bottom line of the barcode and my my notion of what's going on in the informational phase space of contemporary existence is that

We are under the influence of a kind of a tractor

This is this thing I mentioned which seized hold of us as a higher animal and steered us toward language ritual religion

The calculus so forth and so on

This attractor is

literally sucking

The world of three-dimensional space and time into itself

This is what history is

History is biological time turning into some other kind of time

History is speeding up as we approach the Omega point

And here is a granted idiotic but nevertheless serviceable metaphor for how this thing at the end of time works and

Why we are driven so nutty by things like flying saucers?

The transcendental attractor at the end of the historical process

Think of it like a one of those mirrored bar balls

That hang in a disco that catch the light and put

Sintillations on the walls as it spins around

As we approach the transcendental object at the end of time the reflections the precursive

Anticipations

What wordsworth called the intimations of immortality?

Grow ever stronger

The world is becoming more and more

Irrational more and more fraught with anomaly

You know not only flying saucers

But Bigfoot and the crop circles which are quite new as a wrinkle

There will be more and more of this stuff as we approach the moment of concrescence

And people in the past

Christ, Buddha, you name them

These are people who literally stood in a correct geometrical relationship

To the transcendental object at the end of time

But it was just dumb luck

That's all

They were not superior people

I'm sure that if you could enter into the mind of Christ as he went around Galilee

Performing his miracles

The main thing which preoccupied his inner circumlocution was the question

Why me?

You know what's happening?

Why am I compelled to do and say these things?

Well the the the answer is you've got eschatological fever

You've been infected by a retrovirus that operates not in space but in time

And to the degree that one can clear themselves of the momentum of past presupposition

The transcendental object at the end of time actually comes into view

Plato said time is the moving image of eternity

The way I think of shamanism and psychedelic voyaging is that it is trans dimensional travel

Literally not in some not not in the undefined way that you often hear it used

But in the mathematical sense a shaman and a psychedelic person and a ufo context

T is someone who has seen the end

They simply didn't know what they were looking at because who knows what the end looks like

The the world of historical possibility can presses into a mercurial hologrammatic disk

Part bios part machine part syntax part mind the categories

Dissolve the world is not what it appears to be

I was very interested in I

I was very interested in coming to this thing and studying the psychology of the group and it was very

Fascinating to me that both of the speakers where I listened to the whole thing were very concerned to refute the psychological

Explanation which I gather is the antichrist around here

And as I understand it somebody said to me the first thing they said to me I thought my god these people are on end

He said I want you to know that this union thing is bullshit said okay

That's fine

However

This is like beating a dead horse

Has the news from quantum physics not reached the ufo community?

Is it not now thoroughly?

Assimilated that an observer is necessary for reality to exist at all?

It's all psychological

There's no distinction

And so these people who have such enthusiasm for beryllium ships from our tourists or wherever

Should be informed you know same same

That's important news

It isn't now and where is it coming from?

Let's let's not rush past this here

Physics has always been the paradigmatic science

All sciences have physics envy

Why is that?

Because it's not unlikely in a physics experiment

To be able to predict an experimental result

To three decimal points of accuracy

That's science

You don't get that in sociology

You don't get that in psychology

You don't even get that in biology

And and physics is the most mathematical of all the sciences

So around the towering edifice of physics

The more frightened and uncertain of the sciences had gathered near her skirts

Well so now what is physics telling us?

Saying folks hold your horses here

It turns out the cheerful world of billiard ball like atoms

Winging their way through Newtonian space

Is in for serious revision

It turns out that these particles aren't even particles

They're waves

Well no not exactly

They're both

Well what I actually meant to say was

And you discover the babble of mad people

Science has collapsed

Its core has given way to contradiction

The cheerful exploration of matter that begins with the Greeks

Is destroyed by Werner Heisenberg

And all his evil grandchildren

Who now show

That you know

Number one

It's incomprehensible

Number two

It's self-contradictory

Number three

You can't

Conceptualize it

Except in some enormously complicated mathematical phase space

Anyway

So this concern for the materiality of the saucers

Is a completely anachronistic issue

Carried far enough

The analysis of this stage will show you

That it has no quote reality to it

Now this play is nicely right into my hands

Let's go back now to those drug induced hallucinations

You know I think every

Every UFO investigator in the country

They have these forms

When they come rushing out to your house

When you report an 11 mile long green cigars overhead

And the first question is

Are you intoxicated?

Do you have a history of taking drugs?

What is your relationship to altered states?

This is a complete fascism

Most encounters with extraterrestrials

Take place in altered states

That's what altered states are

Reality is you know

The tip of an iceberg of irrationality

That we've managed to drag ourselves up onto

For a few panting moments

Before we slip back into the sea of the unreal

What this means then

Just to cut to the chase

Is that

Psychedelic drugs

Are as important

To the study of UFOs

As the telescope was

To the redefining of astronomy

You can meet the alien

Tomorrow night

If your connections are good enough

And you can meet the alien

Over and over and over again

You said this was what you wanted

Baby

It's on its way

It's being served

The anxiety

That society feels about psychedelic drugs

And notice

Psychedelic drugs do not cause addiction

Ruin lives

Or inspire people to rob banks

Or any of that

Psychedelic drugs

Nothing has ever been adduced against them

Except that they give you funny ideas

Well I think this is a crowd familiar

With being stigmatized for dealing in funny ideas

They haven't made UFOs illegal

But they certainly have made psychedelics illegal

This is because

This is the portal

The secret is out

It isn't going to be a top-down revelation

It isn't going to come on

McNeil-Lerror

Or the cover of Time

There will not be an announcement

From the White House press office

Anybody who has that vision

Of how it works

Has completely given away their own power

You are not to be a consumer

Of the UFO

It is not for your amusement

It is for your transformation

And you can play the game

Of waiting

With the uninitiated

Or you can simply

Go look at the end of the movie

Shamans have been doing this

For at least

Probably a hundred thousand years

And it's a

It's a process

Of opening

To an experience

Not an ideology

It's not an ideology

It's an experience

The UFO thing

Began as an experience

The Rainier lights

The rest of it

It was quickly seized upon

By ideologues

The contactees of the 50's

Now there are new ideologues

The problem is

Everybody claims

Too much information

You know

I mean

Where does it end?

People who have exact information

On the geography of Atlantis

Or the pecking orders

Of distant planets

And this sort of thing

I mean

There are rules of evidence

And

What can't pass through that filter

Has to be discarded

I think

That

The real other

Need not be guarded

By the frail efforts

Of occult apologists

The real other

Can be hammered on

With a ball peen hammer

And it will do

Just fine

Thank you

So

I want to suggest

And I am very delighted

To have the opportunity

The UFO community

Has a great database

Of experience

With weirdness

Now you need to just

Take it

One vibratory level

Over

And

Cut your teeth

On what we have been

Putting up with

For years

Which is

These alien entities

That are so easily

Contacted

And dealt with

Through the intercession

Of the psilocybin

And DMT

Family

Of compounds

I want to describe

My DMT experience

Just to let you know

How alien it is

And then we can

Discuss this a little

I described

The psilocybin experience

Or I mentioned

That it is a voice

DMT

Which is a near relative

Of psilocybin

Psilocybin

I mentioned

4-phosphoroxy

NNDMT

Now I want to talk

About NNDMT

This is a compound

The commonest

Halicinogen

In nature

Note that

Because if an alien

Were spreading

Halicinogens around

This would be

The one to look at

It's the commonest one

You smoke it

It only lasts

Three to seven minutes

Not long folks

Anybody can invest

Three to seven minutes

I would think

In an experiment

Which might alter

Your complete ontology

What happens

When you smoke DMT

Well here's what happens

To me

There is a mandalic pattern

Which forms

Which is identifiable

As what pharmacologists

Call preliminary hypnagogia

It just simply means

That

The brain mind system

Is saying

Yes exotic indoles

Are arriving

At the synaptic receptors

In unexpected numbers

Yes

We are monitoring

This situation

Yes

Okay

That goes on

For about

Thirty seconds

And then you are

Propelled through

It

Into a place

A place

Not a state of mind

A place

And this place

Has its low

It's no higher

Than this ceiling

And it's actually

About the size

Of this room

But rounded

Soffited

Lighting

Indirect

Lighting

But the main

Action

Is you are

Instantly

Plunged

Into an environment

Of elf

Intelligence

Self transforming

Machine elves

I call these things

Or tykes

Just for want

Of a better

Name

They are not

Cheerfully

Portrayed

And suitable

Material

T-shirts

And coffee

Mugs

They are

Self transforming

Jeweled

Basketball

Like things

It's not clear

They are made

Of matter

They are made

Of light

Their status

And the phylogeny

Of biology

Is extraordinarily

Murky

And they

Come pounding

Forward

Like badly

Trained dogs

Cheering

They say

Here you are

You may all recall

Some of you may recall

That old Pink Floyd song

The gnomes have learned

A new way

To say

Hooray

So there you are

Now

20 seconds before

You were in an apartment

Somewhere

With your scuzzy friends

Doing drugs

Now

That's gone

And you are

In this place

Being confronted

By these entities

And one of the things

They do

That's quite disconcerting

Is they come

Jumping up

Or dribbling up

To you

And then they will

Sort of vibrate

In place

Then they jump

Into your chest

Then they jump

Back out

But the main thing

Is

They are doing

Something

Very

Interesting

What they're doing

Is

They

I call

The reason I call them

Language Elves

Is because

They possess

An

Ontos

Of language

That is completely

Alien

To us

They

Use a language

Which you can

See

They can

Condense

Meaning

Before your very eyes

For them

Syntax

Is not

Acoustical

Rules

Its

Pictorial

Rules

And they are doing this

They will scramble

Forward

Elbowing each other

Jumping up and down

Very excited

And they say

Look at this

And they

Pull objects

Sing objects

Into existence

And show them

To you

And as your attention

Goes into these things

You

Are

It's

The emotion

Is indescribable

These objects

Are made

Of gold

Ivory

Smaragdine

Chalcedony

Beryllium

Terbium

Flesh

Gold

Blood

Heat

Tears

And it's all

Changing

Morphing

As you look at it

And as you look at this

You have without

An iota

Of doubt

The conviction

If i could bring this thing across

It would end human history

Argument would cease

You would just say

Look

At this

And they're pushing each other away

Showing you look at this one

Look at this one

These objects themselves emit sound

And make other objects

The whole thing is going on

In an atmosphere of incredible hilarity and confusion

It's now one minute since you left your scuzzy friends in that badly furnished apartment

Naturally

Naturally this

The fact that you're having this experience

Raises certain fundamental questions

Such as

Am i dead now

Is that what's happened

And the entities say

They say

Don't give way to amazement

Don't flip out

About how you can't believe it

And it's impossible

And so forth and so on

Don't do that

Just pay attention

Pay attention

To what we are doing

And what we are showing you

And what they preach

Is a new dispensation of language

A language that can be beheld

And as you sit there

You feel like a bubble form in your stomach

And begin to make its way to your mouth

And when it comes out

As a kind of a glossolalia

You discover that in that space

You too can make jeweled objects

With spinning interiors

And reflexively rotating sub themes

And so forth and so on

All driven by a kind of spontaneous glossolalia like verbal activity

That is very spontaneous and indescribable

But fortunately doable

It sounds like this

This is a pictorial activity

Now when I went to the Amazon

I discovered

I didn't discover

I went to

They've been known for years

Tribes of people

Using a halicinogen called ayahuasca

And when you take ayahuasca with these people

They sing

And then they have like little intermissions

And I would be in my horrible Spanish ear

Listening to these people

The guy next to me is saying

To the guy next to him

About the song

He says

I love the olive drab part

But when he got in

The song

He says

I love the olive drab part

But when he got in

The song

He says

I love the olive drab part

that thing with the silver on magenta I just thought it was tacky and I'm what

say what you realize these people for them sound is being transduced in the

visual cortex the ordinary processing of acoustical input is being shunted to

the visual cortex this is the same thing the DMT types are talking about and

these are the very jungle tribes that it's always been charged had group mind

telepathy ways of creating a social cohesion that was contravened reason this

is what's going on I think now I then studied this phenomenon of language very

carefully I mean I'd never even occurred to me of visual language I discovered

however that nature has anticipated this phenomenon in the organisms that are

known to us as octopi and cephalopods as you all know as you're probably graduates of

those horrible nature specials on TV octopi can change color most people think this

is camouflage it isn't camouflage it is language octopi control an enormous

repertoire of what are called traveling dots blushes shadings striping wavy lines

and a huge color palette these exterior changes on the surface of the octopus are a

direct readout of its state of mind it wears its mind on its surface and you may not know but the third

gastrulation of the blastopore in the human fetus the it becomes the surface of the body the surface of

the body is brain tissue essentially a very thin sheet of brain tissue all over the

outside of the body that's why there's so many nerves in the skin so what seems to

be being preached in the DMT encounter is the ontological transformation of into a

telepathic mode now you may have thought telepathy was you hearing somebody else think

apparently that's not what telepathy is telepathy is you seeing what somebody else means it's the visual

acquisition of meaning rather than the audio acquisition of meaning because there is no ambiguity you see we

use local languages if your dictionary matches my dictionary you can understand me and that's fine if

we're saying you know could you close the door or get me a grant but if what we're saying if

we're talking about the ontology of language or the political obligations to the community in the light

of the inevitability of mortality or something like that then acoustically transduced sound and common

dictionaries don't cut the mustard one of the most uncool things you can say in any situation is would you

please explain to me what I just said because that rends the fabric and we're then faced in the mud of the

fact that nobody understands or even bothers to listen to anybody else and if they do they don't get it

anyway well I I think that we are on the collision course with a planet transforming event and that we

have been for a very very long time I also believe that it lies below the horizon of rational apprehension at

this point in time it's it's if you're in this game for fun there's lots of fun to be had if you're

in this game for final answers I suggest you take up geometry it will be much more satisfying there

isn't going to be closure I mean because after all don't lose sight of the fact that we're advanced monkeys

of some sort the idea that advanced monkeys could in fact unearth and then cognize the secret of the

universe is like expecting the same thing from termites or or you know muscles it's absurd it's ridiculous I

mean we are embedded in mystery our brains were evolved to keep us from being eaten by nearby hungry competitors

it is not a tool for philosophy philosophy comes later and I think that what the UFO community and what the

psychedelic community share is a tremendous impatience with science scientism and the fascism of scientism and

the way to overcome these things is to simply opt out of the historical game and avail yourselves of the shamanic tools which have

always been there the whisperings from the other dimension are probably a thousand millennia old

that's a million years that's the time that we have been sitting around campfires spinning yarns for each

other and looking up at the night sky we are not alone on this planet but it may be that we are the late

evolving intelligence the mushroom said to me once it said I said what are you doing here it said you're a

mushroom you live cheap I said but it said it was not such a bad neighborhood till the monkeys went berserk and

that was only yesterday so you see it isn't that they're coming to us from the stars it's that we are finally

having the scales far fall from our eyes to realize what it means to be on a water heavy oxygen rich planet with over two and a half

billion years of biological history already neatly tucked under the belt I mean the the the peculiarities and singularities that have been built into our

our circumstance I believe would literally stand our hair on end and the only way the only way to make your way through this morass of claim and counterclaim is do not move your faith and iota beyond your own direct

experience if you haven't seen a ufo believe no one no photograph no testimony no nothing because it's all

everything is contaminated forget ufos take mount everest have you seen it then for you it doesn't exist i saw

it it couldn't possibly be the world's largest mountain i could hold it between this finger and this finger

so then if you limit yourself to direct experience does that mean that you're shit out of luck

no it means that you have arrived at the beginning of the real path toward the saucer because you don't want

to hear that whitley streber bud hopkins walked in through the purple doorway and was never seen again

you want to be the person to walk through the purple doorway and never be seen again well i guarantee you

it's uh more easily done than you might wish to suppose uh but you're going to have to um avail yourself

of the shamanic technology which is a super technology uh of the shamanic technology that we inherit

from the archaic civilizations not everybody fell into physics worship and materialism the rainforest

cultures the aboriginal cultures have kept the channel open while we dithered and mucked about in the

historical process materialism scientism positivism you name it but the doorway lies open the problem is it

requires an act of courage real courage because it's real it's absolutely real but the sine qua non is the

psychedelic molecule it was designed this way it isn't that it's impossible to encounter these things in any

other fashion but it's impossible to coherently encounter them in any other fashion uh because that's the part that is

obtruding into the social sphere and that's the area where contention control informational viruses

disinformation false testimony uh hidden agendas are totally corrupting of the phenomenon but you can get it down

to you and it if you will simply avail yourself of the psychedelic tools that nature created and that shamanism

places at our disposal that's where the frontier of this hyper-technical fantasy is headed toward a revivification

of knowledge systems that were ancient when the pyramids were not yet even a gleam in the eye

questions thank you very much it's lots of fun you have no idea how much fun this is yeah

i have two questions uh one are you aware of any psychedelics being used in ancient greece around

the time of plato or aristotle sure um you should read the road to eleusis by wasson and hoffman that

argues very persuasively that an lsd-like alkaloid lay behind the eleusinian mysteries that was that was the

great mystery religion that inspired all of the movers and shakers of of the hellenistic world

and your second question good question serotonin is a neurotransmitter that occurs in almost all life

it occurs from flat worms to human beings and interestingly as you ascend the phylogeny there is

more and more serotonin more in mammals than in any other major order of animals more in uh primates

than in any other kind of mammal and more in man than in any other primate serotonin is five hydroxy

tryptamine dmt i'm sorry psilocybin four phosphoryloxy and then dmt although it must be said

that the phosphorus group is clipped off almost immediately and it becomes silicin uh for hydroxy and

in dimethyltryptamine uh i believe that on one level what's happening is that there is a kind of

evolutionary competition going on obviously some neurotransmitters are more efficient than others

and it may be that we are only a one or two gene mutation away from a swapping out of serotonin

for some more efficient whatever that might mean neurotransmitter now romantically wouldn't it be nice

if psilocybin were it i suspect it isn't because psilocybin is not known to be elaborated in the tissue of

any higher animal but what's a good candidate is uh there is an enzyme in the pineal gland called a

deneroglomerotropine that chemically analyzed turns out to be harmaline it's a beta-carboline

it's it's for hydroxy tetrahydroharmaline these harming molecules are part of the mystery

incredibly bioelectronically active with a structure that assimilates to the anjna chakra

and they are the uh molecules which are a part of the ayahuasca brew i think we're on the brink of a

tremendous evolutionary adventure and that it will involve physically redesigning ourselves look at

the mushroom i'm just to go off on a wild tear here mushrooms are what are called primary decomposers

fungi right means they only live off dead matter now vegetarianism is held up as a spiritual ideal

but compared to the strategy of mushrooms vegetarianism is an orgy of mass death

on an appalling scale uh so if perhaps the mushroom is essentially buddhist in its approach notice how

how non-invasive of the world of matter the mushroom is it forms a diaphanous network through the soil as

as tenuous as cobwebs and yet filled with neurotransmitters and you may remember from last

year it was discovered that the largest organisms on this planet are mushroom mycelial mats there they

cover acres they weigh more than blue whales and they're so old it's better not even to speak of it

uh this looks to me like this is what intelligence driven by ethical concern for life would design itself

into say no harm we want to be primary decomposers we want to be as diaphanous as cobwebs we want to

be a spore bearing life form that can percolate through the universe and we want to have instantaneous

access time to the galactic databases this is what the mushroom looks like and you know if you think

this is malarkey please do not intellectually evade the challenge that it poses you because if you think

this is malarkey then take mushrooms and tell me i'm full of that's all that's all you have to do you

you know it's easy you don't have to camp out on some mesa in new mexico for three weeks yeah

the only i think it was so the time or the or the trip to me how to say the only four

phosphoro indole and that makes it uh especially uh understandable something an alien would present

that's essentially correct because it's so unique yes because it's unique in other words

i can imagine a scenario like this uh a spore bearing life form somewhere in the universe

it does everything with the technology of dna and it you see these spores actually can survive in the

environment of outer space i mean that's what they love if you store spores you store them at 220

degrees below zero in liquid nitrogen you store them in an outer space like environment well you can

imagine a spore drifting in here inculcating itself into the environment and then play uh carrying out

a complete survey and then isn't it strange that these mushrooms were right in our paths as we left the

trees and descended onto the african grassland my book food of the gods i argued uh that uh uh i thought

of a joke about food of the gods that i won't belabor it with no no it was something about smorgasbord of

the gods but i argued that psilocybin is what propelled us into humanness but i didn't discuss

the potential alien origin of the mushroom itself i just said there is an x factor in human history

something caused the human brain size to double in about a million years no straight anthropologist or

evolutionary primatologist has a clue as to what it was and i think that psilocybin is like an enzyme for

cognitive activity and that it coaxed out of us language theater art religion poetry all of these

things and it created a kind of partnership paradise a role appropriate about sexually balanced gender

honoring child sensitive nature sensitive civilization and that all fell to pieces about 15

10,000 years ago and we have been on you know a death march into hell ever since as soon as you get

agriculture you get surplus that gives you haves and have-nots and the need to beat out the brains of

people who are not in your social group because they're trying to get at your grain storage

agriculture means the end of nomadism it means sedentary populations it means cities it means standing

armies male kingship hierarchical structures law all of the stuff that is so odious and horrible and that

has led us so wrong i mean it may have seemed like a good idea at ur but we're the unhappy inheritors of the

consequence of six thousand years of unopposed dominator culture and what have we got a shattered

atmosphere toxified oceans schizophrenic populations and mendacious politicians this is not what our parents

raised us for folks a woman yeah

the indole gets created people respond to it and then are drawn to it and they keep on co-evolving

together as people evolve they find new and more substances that they can then go further with

does it have to be a teacher from outside introducing these things to simple animals

no it doesn't you're quite right i mean i'm not at all clear on the location of these things

the people who just assume that these are that metal ships from other star systems arrive here

have a lot of explaining to do i mean i i was fascinated by the last speaker with the you don't

go there you grab the space and move it to you well then obviously the question is well how do you grab it

you know something crosses that stellar distance instantly and i don't think you can fake your way

around it it's a tough nut to crack now there may be uh i think it's there's an image and i'll we're

getting close to the end so i'll leave you with it because it amuses me so much as you know the world's

largest radio telescope is at arecibo puerto rico and as you probably know a multi-million channel

analyzer has been attached to that thing and there's been funding for another deep space search and so

there they are at arecibo with the world's largest radio telescope reaching out you know mega merubi

sticks into the universe when you actually go there the telescope was built into a natural bowl

which they made further they rounded out and then they planted grass in this bowl to halt erosion

well then to keep the grass from getting out of hand they brought in white cows to crop the grass

so there in the grass beneath the world's largest radio telescope engaged in searching for extraterrestrial

life is the mushroom in great profusion if you wanted it that's where you'd go and get it and that is the

perfect symbol for how we search for extraterrestrial life it's at your feet my friends thank you very very

much i may have been a little premature is there somebody so terribly disappointed that now they

realize they've telepathically ordered me to answer one more question if you attack me i'll kill you

a practical man and have i got an answer for you uh it's ordinarily that question is very hard to answer dmt occurs

in certain fish uh and in many plants but never in any very great concentration uh there is a magazine

called psychedelic illuminations and in a move that i'm sure will become legendary for its recklessness

in the most recent issue uh they published the absolute synthesis for dmt and i noticed they have a booth

downstairs oh here you can recognize that it has the face of a maniac on it

so that's where you get uh dmt and good luck to you thank you very very much

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