Timewave Theory - South of Spain
An untitled clip capturing Dennis McKenna in conversation on the south coast of Spain, reflecting on his brother Terence's 1996 appearance at Rustler's Retreat in South Africa. Dennis describes himself as an entertainer rather than believer of timewave theory, explaining how he perceives echoes of historical figures like Blake and Jefferson in everyday people, viewing ordinary actions as rehearsals of past events. The conversation explores the concept of the Tao of the ancestors, the idea that individuals are the front end of a gene swarm continually reassembling itself, and his role as an information nexus for psychedelic plant knowledge. A brief but rich glimpse into how timewave theory shapes perception of reality through pattern recognition and morphogenetic fields.
transcriptmachine-transcribed, unedited
in a conversation here on the south coast of spain that began with my brother's appearance at
rustler's retreat in south africa almost eight years ago in 1996. my point of view as a
not a believer but an entertainer of time wave theory is life has become this weird
confirming spectacle as i watch everything go on i'm asking questions nobody else i think could
hardly imagine like you know is the reason her dress is cut that way because she is an echo of
franklin the fat's wife angelina and similar quasi-schizoid ruminations
in which
what i'm always trying to do is see the echoes and i see people people come to me and stand in
front of me and you know i see the flicker of blake or or the crooked smile of jefferson or
the glinty gaze of sod and it all comes mixed together and then i find myself in situations
which are rehearsals of other historical events and other
people do this but they don't understand how it sounds to me like yesterday on our hike
someone kept saying was it you was it you kept saying the tribe marches south or something like
that echoing the great pilgrimages in the history of south africa right when various people moved
south the great trek but then of course in american history there are many great treks
and of course what is history but great treks on one level well so to the time wave informed mind
this seemingly trivial remark is incredibly rich because in some way we are repeating
the great trek everything becomes paradigmatic every action is somehow what it is
but also the morphogenetic ghosts of other times and other places behind us the unknown
before us the secret a human body incarnated in time is an extraordinary for understanding
being and meaning and what i really am is sort of the front end of a gene swarm that is continually
reassembling itself in different combinations and if you could see my son or my father
you would see
why my daughter was also cremated in the years до
so how can you imagine how i am theme and variation on something larger than any individual
that is spread through time the idea of the dao of the ancestors i think is simply that
if you feel into your body like how you hold a machete how you mount a horse
the best way for you to do that. That's the easiest way for you to do that
because that's the Tao of the ancestors. And if you can feel the Tao of the
ancestors in everything you do, how you hold a teacup, how you walk, how you talk,
you become somehow connected into something more than yourself and you can
draw a vitality and a strength from that. If you don't do things according to
the Tao of the ancestors, then it's difficult. It's like pushing against the
river. Your muscles, your eye, your mind wants to do things a certain way that
is your heritage. And to yield to it is like suddenly to find the world
made of mercury. Everything seems to work.
as though it's superconducting. Sometimes you experience this on
psychedelics. I think that's what the Tao is. It's tuning out the static of
individual existence and planting yourself firmly in the in the
morphogenetic field of your gene pool. And then things unfold very naturally
and without stress. The distinction between adult and child is largely
artificial.
In other words, much of the world confuses me. Much of social situations,
sexual dealings, drugs, I find myself wishing somebody had educated and
explained it all to me. You don't ever suddenly understand, you know. We all
carry with us into life blank spots in our understanding. So I consider myself at
age 50.
To be in a state of prolonged adolescence and ever learning and
assimilating and passing on to young people, which is, I don't say child, I
don't say adolescent, I say young people, whatever I know. And learning
from them similarly to get to get connected up. My life is like science
fiction. I feel, I don't know, the word trapped is slightly paranoid, but I
feel enclosed within something like a Philip K. Dick novel. With the advice of
Phil K. Dick, James and Nora Joyce are actually running my reality. I don't
know about your reality. The tension in my personal life is I was an odd vessel
for this job. I am an extremely rugose and
lamented creature and double Scorpio and Catholic upbringing. And I see every
situation from 15 points of view. And I can't get rid of it. I can't get rid of
this. The complications in existence. And so what it's come down to for me is
I've had to realize that it's very hard to do shamanic research and be a
missionary.
propaganda but so that's my dilemma how to do what I've been doing for years
which is the only thing I understand is talking to people that sort of thing I
would starve under a bridge if I couldn't do this because I'm too
something for organizational or institutional life everything I am and
have discussed with you and so forth was developed away from the public eye
and the other thing is you know being a public figure is a really stupid thing
to be it's you participate in some of the sleaziest and most tainted machinery
of the culture and you see how people are manipulated you see what the cult
of celebrity is and how people are invited to disempower themselves
in its presence and it's it's as they say of sausage and foreign policy it's
not something you should ever watch being made anyway that's it that's
enough of that my function is is to sort of serve as a as an information
information nexus for data on psychedelic plants and chemistry and
narrative and
to just sort of encourage people to explore their own minds and so forth and
so on very weird very weird you know it's a circus from another dimension it's
a traveling carnival from Zenebel Ganupi it's you know has implications
that just raise the hair on the back of your neck if you let it sink in but it's
all in good fun see it's zany take a spin ten chances
for a dollar
hurry hurry question me and deliver me from this rant

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