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Terence McKenna opens the inaugural Albert Hofmann Foundation event, held in Los Angeles before roughly two thousand attendees. The ceremony, at the Scottish Rite Temple, marked the 50th anniversary of LSD synthesis and launched a major archive for consciousness research. McKenna delivers an eloquent argument for consciousness exploration as humanity's birthright and critiques the suppression of psychedelic research in American science. He honors the pioneering researchers - Hofmann, Wasson, Schultes - who discovered the molecular keys to expanded consciousness. The address stands as a landmark statement on the intellectual, spiritual, and social stakes of psychedelic science at a threshold moment for its legitimization.

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Greetings from Cyberdelic Space.

This is Lorenzo, and I'm your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

And today I've got what I consider to be a real treat,

some new mind candy that was sent to me by our fellow salonner, Gary Eisenberg.

In fact, Gary sent me several interesting recordings that you'll be hearing this week and next.

And here's a description of the event where this recording was made.

And by the way, Gary, what a thrill it must have been to be there in person.

Maybe some of our other fellow salonners who were there will also let us know about it.

Anyway, this is the description that I found on the subgenius.com website,

which actually was a repost from the old Usenet news group,

which was one of the tribe's first stops on the net before the World Wide Web made its appearance.

I'm sure you remember it. You know the one, alt.drugs.

And as a little aside, if I'm not mistaken,

it was John Gilmore who has been with us here in the salon a couple of times,

who is the person who actually originated, or invented, I guess you'd say,

the alt news groups in the early years of the net.

And if you were already on the net back in the 80s,

I'm sure that you remember well how exciting it was to watch the words tumble onto your screen

through that wonderful little 300-baud dial-up modem.

Anyway, here's what one person who attended the event had to say about it in a Usenet posting.

I attended the Albert Hoffman in America,

celebrating 50 years of consciousness research event in Los Angeles,

and I'm forwarding some of the information because I know some of you would want to hear it.

The event featured lectures by Terrence McKenna,

Stanley Krippner,

Andrew Weil,

John C. Lilly,

and Albert Hoffman himself.

Unfortunately, Laura Huxley could not attend.

There was also live music.

A staggering 2,000 or so people filled the hall at the Scottish Rite Temple in Los Angeles.

It was also the inauguration of the Albert Hoffman Foundation,

an archive and information center dedicated to the scientific study of human consciousness.

And now, thanks to fellow slawner, artist, and all-about-Renaissance man, Gary Eisenberg,

we are going to revisit that historic occasion.

And, Gary, I can't thank you enough for these recordings.

I've really enjoyed previewing them,

and I'm looking forward to listening again right now.

As you'll hear in just a moment,

the recording begins with an introduction by Robert Zanger,

who I think was the first president of the newly formed Albert Hoffman Foundation.

Sadly, although there have been many generous donors over the years,

the Albert Hoffman Foundation has now fallen fallow

and exists primarily as an old text-based website.

However, if you're interested in all things psychedelic,

particularly from the scientific point of view,

I think you'll find a visit to www.hoffman.org,

and he spells his name H-O-F-M-A-N-N,

one F, two M's, in case you're wondering.

I think you'll find the visit there quite worthwhile.

And should you go there,

I recommend that you begin with the What's New link,

as it now serves more or less as a table of contents.

But I should also note that all of those boxes containing thousands of papers

that you'll hear talked about have now been scanned

and are available for you to read at www.erowid.org,

E-R-O-W-I-D, www.erowid.org.

It's an amazingly valuable resource for psychedelic researchers,

and there's a link to that collection at the beginning of the program notes for this podcast,

which you can get to via psychedelicsalon.org.

But right now, let's join Robert Zanger as he introduces the evening's Master of Ceremonies,

a fellow you may have heard of before.

His name is Terence McKenna.

My name is Robert Zanger, and I'm president of the new Albert Hoffman Foundation.

This is indeed a historic occasion for modern consciousness research for a number of reasons.

This year marks the 50th anniversary of the first synthesis of LSD

by Dr. Hoffman in 1938.

It also marks the inauguration of the new Albert Hoffman Foundation,

which will be dedicated to preserving the psychedelic research

that's been done over the last 50 years.

And for a third reason, because just a few weeks ago,

LSD has been legalized in Switzerland for use in psychotherapy.

This is something that Dr. Hoffman will be telling you more about himself

later in the program when he gives his presentation.

At this time, I'd like to introduce our first speaker of the evening

and our emcee for the rest of the program.

He's a lecturer, an extremely articulate and poetic speaker, as many of you know,

a shamanologist, an expert on psychoactive plants and medicinal plants

from around the world, director of the Botanical Dimensions Foundation in Hawaii.

Please welcome Terence McKenna.

Well, it's very heartening to see so many people here tonight

to celebrate an event like this.

Talking about 50 years of consciousness research in America

reminds me a little bit of the story that's told of Mahatma Gandhi

when he was asked, what did he think of Western civilization?

And he said, it sounds like a good idea.

Because, as a matter of fact,

consciousness research in America

has been severely stifled

over the last 35, 40 years.

Science is invited to look deeply into all aspects of nature

except the nature of the self.

And yet, clearly, a crowd like this, an event like this,

indicates that this issue will not die.

This issue is not going to go away.

And so, it's wonderfully fitting, I think,

that we bring Dr. Hoffman

from his bastion in neutral Switzerland

to the city of lost angels

to celebrate what was one of the great seminal events

in the history of the 20th century.

You know, Newton was asked of his theory of gravitation

how could he ever have made this leap of imagination?

And Newton said, it was very easy.

I stood on the shoulders of giants.

And everyone who has done psychedelic research,

research on consciousness in America,

has stood on the shoulders of giants.

People like Robert Gordon Wasson,

the discoverer of the magic mushrooms in Mexico,

the man who propounded and founded the field of ethnobotany.

People like Richard Evans Schultes,

who is an advisor to the Hoffman Library,

and the great ethnobotanist of the 20th century.

And without doubt, people like Albert Hoffman,

people who, laboring in the confines of their laboratories,

have thrown open the doorway to new worlds of possibility

for the human spirit.

Tonight, as Dr. Hoffman was receiving the accolades of the crowd

for the invention of LSD,

I couldn't help but think to myself

that he probably never dreamed

that the search for a better vaginal constrictor

would carry him so far.

So, I'm going to keep my remarks brief this evening.

I think a visit by Albert Hoffman to America,

the foundation of a library that bears his name,

that will serve as an archive for the research

that has been locked away in filing cabinets

and packing boxes for 30 years.

And in concert with the political situation

in the society, the larger society around us,

is a sufficient reason for pausing for a moment

and actually considering what is the psychedelic experience,

what promise does it hold for a sane future

for our planet and our children,

and what is it about it

that kindles the kind of loyalty

that I feel coming from the people in this room this evening.

And I submit to you that it is nothing less

than the rebirth of a voice

that has been silent for at least a thousand years,

the still small voice of the logos of the planet

You know, the Old Testament says

you don't have to study the difference

between good and evil.

You know it.

The still small voice in your heart

elucits the correct way to live.

And in Western culture,

this still small voice has been stilled

for over a millennia,

and we have operated in a world

that is reductionist,

objectivist,

materialistic,

secular,

male-dominated,

stressing stasis,

stressing the minute particulars

in favor of the great overarching picture.

And in some way,

we have lost our way.

And it remained for giants

of 20th century thought

like Freud and Jung

to announce the startling fact

that there was a human unconscious.

And then it took

still a different generation of researchers

with a different set of analytical skills

to take the concepts of the unconscious

and turn it in

to a frontier full of challenge,

to a topological manifold

that courageous minds

could sail out into

to map and to explore.

And squarely then,

in the path of the materialist,

reductionist,

crypto-fascist dreams

of high-tech industrialism,

there emerged

a mystery,

the last thing

you would expect,

a true mystery.

Now, Dr. Hoffman

has been lauded here

this evening

for his invention of LSD.

Certainly,

this is what

he will be remembered for

over the long centuries ahead.

But as a matter of fact,

he is a thinker

of extreme breadth

and depth.

It was he working

with Carl Ruck

and Gordon Wasson

who proposed

that it was actually

psychoactive ergot alkaloids

that lay behind

the Ellicinian mysteries

and thereby

rubbed the nose

of classical scholarship

in the fact

that the foundation

and the wellspring

of the Western imagination,

which was the mystery cults

of ancient Greece,

that that foundation

is firmly rooted

in a psychedelic experience,

that when we leave

these things behind,

we leave behind

our cultural birthright,

no less than when

the Amazonian Indian

deserts his home village

for the sawmills.

We, too,

were once

tribal people

who lived

in the light

of mysteries

that came to us,

mediated by shamans

and created

out of the magic

of the natural world.

It was Albert Hoffman

who synthesized

psilocybin

for the first time

and described

its absolute

structural characteristics.

This is a man

who is astride

both the synthetic

and natural product

chemistry

of the 20th century

like no one else.

His research

has revealed

the unexpected fact

that there are

biodynamic alkaloids

in our environment,

in our food chain,

indeed,

in our history,

that argue

that we

are the bearers

of a great promise,

that the future

of consciousness

can be

endlessly bright.

In any age,

this message

would have

tremendous impact,

but it is

particularly

poignant

in our own age

because we live

in an age

of global crisis.

And the crisis

is not

that there is

not enough food.

There is.

The crisis

is not

that we

are victims

of warfare

and propaganda.

We are.

But the crisis

is rooted

in our own minds.

It's a crisis

of point of view,

a crisis

of psychology,

a crisis

that requires

a new look

at the human

enterprise.

And I submit

to you

that there is

no faster,

clearer,

and cleaner way

to get a new

look at the

human enterprise

than by

availing yourself

of the tools

and the compounds

which men

like John Lilly,

Albert Hoffman,

Richard Schultes,

Gordon Wasson,

Oscar Janiger

have placed

before us.

Don't let anyone

tell you

that we're not

living in an age

of heroes

because we are.

These people

have set

a standard

that will be

difficult to follow.

These people,

when it was,

for God's sake,

controversial

to be a communist,

dared to give

people LSD,

dared to suggest

that a new world

of the mind

might lay right

ahead of us.

And so

I think

it's very fitting

that the

Albert Hoffman

Library

be an ongoing

project,

a project

that the

community

can rally

around

and see

itself

reflected in.

We're living

in an age

where people

who have

an interest

in these things

are marked

as escapists,

pariahs,

cultural anarchists,

ne'er-do-wells,

hedonists.

Look at

the people

around you.

Did any of you

watch the

Republican

Convention?

So I submit

to you

that what we

represent

is a fifth

column,

a fifth

column

that represents

the best

aspirations

that human

community

is capable

of,

a fifth

column

that is

willing

to look

at the

structure

of the

psyche

in contrast

to the

mess

of society

and willing

to dream.

I'm reminded

of William

Faulkner

in his

Nobel

Address.

He said,

man will

not simply

endure,

man will

prevail.

Now,

of course,

he should have

said humanity,

but this was

years ago.

But the

thought is

there.

We have

the tools,

the intellect,

the will

to create

a caring

global

culture.

It isn't

going to

come without

a recognition

of the

power of

the psychedelic

experience.

The psychedelic

experience is

the birthright

of every

human being

on the

planet.

It is

as much

a basic

part of

each and

every one

of us

as our

sexuality,

our

national

identity,

our

consciousness

of self.

And any

society

which

attempts

to hold

back

or impede

this

dimension

of self

expression,

when the

history of

that society

is written,

it will be

called

barbarous.

The movement

toward

legitimizing

psychedelics

I see

as part

of the

broader

movement

throughout

human

history

that gave

us the

Magna

Carta,

the Bill

of Rights,

women's

suffrage.

In the

future,

it will be

unimaginable

that governments

once regulated

the substances

that people

use to

explore

personal

growth.

It is

the mark

of a

barbarous

culture.

And we

are here

to raise

a light

to say

truth

is not

so easily

swept

aside.

One

doesn't

just

say

no

to

truth.

Truth

requires

engagement,

it requires

courage,

it requires

a sense

of where

we have

been

and of

where

we are

going.

And what

is preached

all around

us is

the quick

fix,

the fast

buck,

the temporary

solution,

the throw

away and

disposable

culture

that ends

up throwing

away and

disposing

of human

lives.

And what

we place

against

that

is a

humanism

that does

not rise

out of

theory,

it's a

humanism

that rises

out of

experience.

The

experience

that

informed

the

great

mystics

of

every

religion

is

not

something

that

we

strain

for

throughout

a

life

of

self-discipline

and

self-subjugation.

That

isn't

it,

it is

our

birthright.

Each

of us,

Dr. Hoffman

and his

discoveries

place this

dimension

within the

reach

of all

of us.

Dr. Hoffman

and his

discoveries

place this

dimension

on a

social

agenda

that

cannot

be

denied,

that

will

not

wait.

If

not

now,

when?

If

not

us,

who?

It's

that

simple.

We

are

moving

now,

I

think,

unfortunately,

into yet

a darker

political

night in

terms of

the

larger

society

around

us.

And

I

make

an

analogy

to

the

coming

of the

dark

ages.

But

what the

dark

ages

promoted

that is

going to

work in

our

favor

were

monastic

gatherings

of

like-minded

people

who

preserved

information

through the

time of

darkness and

social ignorance

toward a new

day when it

could be

utilized to

mitigate the

suffering of

men and

women

everywhere.

LSD

LSD is

to my

mind

first and

foremost

the

greatest

medical

discovery

of the

20th

century.

And I

use it

in the

sense

of

ameliorating

pain,

creating

caring,

promoting

unity,

healing not

so much

of the

individual

psyche,

although

certainly

its impact

in that

dimension

is

tremendous,

but

ultimately

as a

deconditioning

agent

allowing us

to move

beyond the

confines of

historical

society

to see

what we

could be,

what we

have been,

and what

in fact we

have the

energy to

be in

the future.

Thank you

very much.

So I'm

doing double

duty up

here tonight

as MC

as well,

and I

want to

introduce the

next speaker.

He's an

extremely

eminent

psychologist,

researcher,

long on

the scene,

there at

the beginning.

His work

with

dreams

at

Maimonides

Hospital

set him

on a

lifelong

course of

the study

of consciousness.

He has

published

extensively

on

shamanism.

He is

a teacher,

lecturer,

mentor,

and all

around

great guy.

Please

welcome to

the podium

Dr. Stanley

Krippner.

Thank you

very much,

Terrence,

and thank

you very

much for

such a

brilliant

introductory

talk.

Well,

some of

you remember

that when

Albert Hoffman

wrote his

autobiography,

he called

it LSD,

my problem

child.

I have

news for

you,

Albert.

LSD was

not your

only

tonight,

and I

think you

will be

very

proud of

us

before

the

night

is

over.

Now,

I'm

going to

discuss

the way

that

Albert

Hoffman

and his

work

have

influenced

the

whole

field

of

consciousness

studies,

and I'm

going to

use the

term

consciousness

to refer

to a

person

or

other

organisms

pattern

of

perceptual,

cognitive,

affective

functioning,

either

the field

of

consciousness

studies

includes

descriptive,

experimental,

theoretical

approaches

to the

investigation

of these

patterns

of

functioning.

Emphasis

also is

placed on

relating

phenomenological

techniques

to the

measurement

of

externally

observable

behavior

as well

as to

abstract

model

building.

At

Saybrook

Institute

Graduate

School

where I

teach,

we have

one of

the few

carefully

thought

out

sequences

of

courses

in

consciousness

studies

at any

accredited

university

in the

United

States.

And

Albert,

you'll

be happy

to know

that at

Saybrook

we don't

keep

interest

in

psychedelics

in the

closet.

Students

write

dissertations

on the

topic,

they

write

papers

on

the

topic,

they

contribute

articles

and chapters

to

monographs

and books,

and you

are certainly

to us

at Saybrook

a great

cultural

and scientific

hero.

Now

consciousness

studies

were neglected

by most

psychologists

for several

studies,

but they

began to

emerge

under the

impact of

developments

in

psychopharmacology

such as the

discovery of

LSD and

related compounds,

but also

developments in

neuropsychology,

engineering

psychology,

sensory

deprivation

studies,

and the

discovery that

rapid eye

movements during

sleep were

quantitatively

related to

dream reports.

The latter

investigations

demonstrated

that objective

and subjective

methods could be

combined in

consciousness

studies.

Research in

hypnosis,

meditation,

and mind-altering

drugs suggested

ways in which

changes in

sensory processing

and cognition

could be

investigated in

laboratory

settings.

Biofeedback

terminology and

technology

demonstrated that

many internal

states could be

monitored and

could be

regulated

voluntarily.

Transpersonal

approaches to

psychology have

brought

Eastern models

consciousness to

the attention

of Western

investigators.

As a result of

these wide-ranging

developments, a

new introspectionism

emerged in the

study of

spontaneous fantasy,

daydreaming,

imagery, and

creativity.

Data from

studies of

memory, attention,

learning, and

cognitive styles

indicated the

need to determine

how awareness

influences sensory

input and

motor output.

Neuropsychological

research produced

data concerning the

functioning of the

two-particle

hemispheres, as

well as the role

played by

neurotransmitters

in regulating

behavior.

As the

scientific study

of behavior

experience and

intentionality,

humanistic

psychology has

assisted in the

rediscovery of

what William

James called the

stream of

consciousness as a

proper area of

investigation.

The groundwork

was prepared for

the advent of the

scientific exploration

of consciousness five

decades ago when

Albert Hoffman

synthesized a

lysergic acid

compound known as

LSD-25.

Initial trials were

disappointing.

It did not seem to

have any medical

use and did not

appear to have

psychoactive

properties with

animals.

But there was

something puzzling

and curious about

LSD-25, and in

1943, Hoffman

investigated again.

He accidentally

absorbed some of

it through his

skin and had

what he later

called a dreamlike

but not

disagreeable

experience.

Albert always has

the talent for

understatement.

Three days later,

Hoffman arranged to

take what he

believed to be a

very weak dose.

He tried to take

notes in his

laboratory journal,

but after a few

pages, found out

that he could not

write anymore.

So he headed for

home on a bicycle.

Why?

Because automobile

use was restricted

in Switzerland during

the Second World War,

which was then

raging through most of

the rest of Europe.

Even though aspects

of his bicycle ride

were terrifying,

Albert realized that

he had made an

important discovery

because no known

substance in the

world would have

any effect at all

in such a small

dosage, one quarter

of a milligram.

Hoffman called a

physician, but by

the time the good

doctor arrived, he

had begun to enjoy

the experience.

The endless variety

of colors, the

happiness, the

rapture, and the

feeling that he had

come back to life.

Eventually, Albert

Hoffman decided to

explore the new

drug in a setting

outside the

conventional laboratory

and had what he

considered to be the

first psychedelic

LSD experience in

1951.

Joining him were

the pharmacologist

Herbert Nazet and

the novelist

Ernst Jünger.

Again, he took a

low dose of the

substance, but found

himself transported

to North Africa

among the Berber

tribes, enjoying

beautiful landscapes and

exotic oases, while

a Mozart record

played music from

above.

And sometime

later, Albert had

his first religious

LSD experience, having

a confrontation with

death and feeling that

he had left the

ordinary world forever.

Fortunately for us,

he came back.

Hoffman became

convinced that LSD

could be important

for psychotherapy, for

treating the

terminally ill, for

brain research, and

as an adjunct to meditation.

But he also concluded that it should only be given

to people who were prepared for it,

to people who had strong psychological structures.

He once commented, and I agree with him,

I thought of LSD as being appropriate for an elite,

for artists, writers, and philosophers.

Hoffman's work with LSD was responsible

for an invitation to investigate

the pharmacological properties of the Mexican mushrooms

used in sacred rituals before the arrival of the Europeans.

By this time, Hoffman was director of research

for the Sandoz Pharmaceuticals Department of Natural Products.

Chemical studies of the mushroom by French and American firms

had ended inconclusively,

so Hoffman was eager to accept the challenge.

And this and other stories come through in his book,

Plant of the Gods, Origins of Hallucinogenic Use,

co-authored with Richard Evans Schrutis.

Well, Hoffman was later to note

that the earlier investigations had used animals as subjects.

But Hoffman, having learned that humans have a greater sensitivity

to psychedelic substances, ate the mushrooms himself.

See, this was very radical at this time,

to try something out on yourself.

Who would have thought of that?

Who would have thought that that would be science?

In 1958, he reported the results of his studies,

having isolated the active ingredients of the sacred mushrooms,

two new substances, which he named psilocybin and psilocybin.

And a few years ago,

Walter Houston Clark was with us tonight,

and I and some other people went to Mexico

for an interview with Maria Sabina

in the last few years of her life,

and saw firsthand the setting

in which some of the early explorers

like Wasson and Hoffman

had observed firsthand

the workings of the sacred mushrooms.

Well, Hoffman was later to synthesize

the active ingredients of rye ergot,

squill, psychoactive morning glory seeds,

and rewolfia.

These investigations led to the production

of several important medicines.

He also made a retrospective study

of the Elusenian mysteries of ancient Greece,

producing compelling evidence

that a psychoactive substance,

probably rye ergot,

was used at the climax of the initiation,

and this is described in his book

The Road to Elysius,

a thrilling detective story

on how this discovery was made,

which had eluded humankind

for thousands of years.

Albert Hoffman has had an important effect

upon consciousness research in several ways.

His synthesis of LSD-25

provided humankind with an incisive tool

for the investigation of perception,

cognition, affect, creativity,

imagery, and imagination.

The difficulties that science,

medicine, and society at large

have had in making full use of this gift

suggest that, alas,

LSD was probably a premature discovery,

at least in industrialized countries.

In native societies,

they have known for thousands of years

how to use wisely these compounds.

And I've seen Albert over the years

on both sides of the Atlantic.

One of our meetings was in the Austrian Alps.

We were there for a conference of shamans.

And we both gave our talks,

but the real stars were the traditional healers

from North America,

South America, from Asia.

One of them, Don Jose Rios,

also known as Matsua,

a Huichol shaman,

who at that time was 107 years of age

and who was still going strong,

was flown to Europe for this trip,

and we were all worried about

how he would take that transatlantic crossing.

And at the airport,

we're saying,

Don Jose, Don Jose,

how did you do it?

How do you feel?

At your age,

were you able to make that crossing?

He said,

Well, I just took a little peyote

before I got on the airplane,

and I'm still flying.

Well, we can learn a lot

from these native practitioners.

I've certainly learned a lot in my day.

Albert as well.

Hoffman has contributed

to the development

of methodological advances

in consciousness research.

Obviously, he is a first-rate chemist

who has been awarded

honorary doctorates

from the University of Zurich

and the Stockholm Pharmaceutical Trust.

But he has also pioneered

in the study

of participant observation techniques,

using himself

as a human laboratory

for the study of drug effects.

In addition,

he is engaged in field research,

visiting remote parts of the world

to observe the use

of psychoactive plants

in native settings.

All of these research approaches

are approaches

that we endorse

and use at Saybrook,

and this is why Hoffman

is such an important figure

to our graduate students.

Also, incidentally,

a few weeks ago,

some of us,

including Andy Weil,

who were here in the audience,

were in the Soviet Union

for a conference

on hidden reserves

of the human psyche

in Moscow.

And one of the discoveries

that I made

was that in the 1930s

and 1940s,

Soviet researchers

were using mescaline

and other psychedelic substances

for self-experimentation.

Now, they didn't dare

write this up

because this was

in the days

of the Stalinist terror.

But they kept journals,

and now, finally,

those journals

are being carefully collected

and hopefully

will be published.

And let me tell you,

this is an important

piece of data

that I hope we can get here

for the Albert Hoffman Library,

these journals from Moscow.

Finally, Albert Hoffman

has never hesitated

to consider

the ethical implications

of his discoveries.

He has made known

his opposition

to the casual use

of LSD

and similar substances.

But he has also been open

in discussing

the philosophical implications

of his work.

He has spent time

with numerous visitors

discussing their LSD-induced

mystical and religious experiences.

He has written and lectured

on such topics

as appearance and reality,

the connections between

humans and the environment,

and the presence

of a creative force

in all living things.

In his autobiography,

Albert Hoffman wrote,

what is needed today

is a fundamental re-experience

of the openness

of all living things,

a comprehensive reality,

consciousness,

that will evermore

infrequently

develop spontaneously,

the more the primordial

flora and fauna

of our Mother Earth

must yield to a dead

technological environment.

That's something

that my shaman friends

would say,

and Albert said it

just as eloquently.

When the history

of consciousness research

is fully written,

the stature of Albert Hoffman

will be obvious

to the historians.

They will write

that here was a man

who was a brilliant scientist

and an innovative researcher,

but more important,

one who accepted

the responsibilities

accompanying his discoveries.

Unlike many other scientists

of the 20th century,

he did not separate science

from ethics.

He behaved responsibly

with commitment,

accepting the burdens

as well as the joys

of his mission.

Our tributes to him tonight

only foreshadow

the accolades

that will accumulate

in time

from a new psychology,

a new medicine,

and a new science

of consciousness

that will freely acknowledge

that they will always be

in Albert Hoffman's depth.

Thank you.

Before I introduce

this next speaker,

I should say

it's a great honor

for me to be asked

to make these introductions.

I am definitely

the new kid on the block

and quite in awe

of these characters,

let me tell you.

Our next speaker,

a figure known

to many of you,

I think I first

became aware of him,

I don't know exactly,

probably it was

fall of 65 or 66,

there was a magazine

called Ramparts

which has been defunct now

for many years,

but they printed

an extract

from the natural mind

and my friends

and I

who were just beginning

to smoke marijuana

and use LSD

avidly studied

the pages

of this Ramparts article

for it purported

to represent

different drug states

on each page

of illustration

and I think

the natural mind

which was later

superseded

by chocolate

to morphine

which had

to my mind

indubitable honor

of being banned

in Florida.

These publications

which I'm sure

are familiar

to all of you,

countless publications

in ethnomycology,

a man

with a great

enthusiasm

for the mushroom

foray,

the long conversation,

scholar,

physician,

social theorist,

your friend

and mine,

Andy Weil.

Hi.

It's good to be here.

It's always good

to be among friends.

I have to do

a lot of work

in the course

of an average year

and a lot of that

is going out

into the cold

and not being

among friends

and trying

to talk the message.

In this past year

for example

I had to go

and give a number

of all-day workshops

on consciousness

and drug policy

in the Iron Range

of Minnesota

at a number

of community colleges

that keep asking me

to come back

and do that.

I had to talk

to a number

of audiences

of psychiatrists

in medical schools

and hospitals

giving grand rounds

on such subjects

as the nature

of the placebo response.

It's hard.

It's nice

to be among friends.

Now,

I wish I could tell you,

I wish I could join

in all the warmth

of this occasion

to tell you

that the revolution

in consciousness

is moving right ahead

and that we are

about to transform

government

and external reality

as a result of that.

But, you know,

it ain't so.

And I say that

as somebody

who goes through

the Iron Range

of Minnesota

and passes through

airports and looks

around me.

And I have to tell you

that I feel

that the majority

of human beings

that I encounter

operate mostly

out of fear,

guilt,

and when people

operate from

those emotions

they are dangerous

to themselves

and to others.

We are a very

small minority.

A very small minority.

And have no illusions

about that.

And whether

our minority

will grow

fast enough

and be able

to influence

humanity

fast enough

to avoid

the catastrophe

that is certain

to come

if we persist

in the ways

that we now persist,

I don't know.

And if we can't,

if it may be

as it appears

that our ability

to manipulate

the environment,

our technological

ability,

is so disparate

with our ability

to control

our own emotions,

that may be

a fatal flaw

of our species.

It may be.

If it is,

that has to be

all right too

because I feel,

and this is based

on a lot of my

experiences

with substances

that we all

know and love,

that deep down

everything is all right

and it's the way

it's supposed to be.

And there may be

a lot of drama

in between,

but it's all all right.

I upset people

a lot

when I say,

but this is true,

that I am not

a human chauvinist.

If our species

destroys itself,

which is a possibility,

I don't think

there's any way

that we can destroy

life, by the way,

or the life process,

or consciousness,

which I think

preceded life

and preceded

the human organism

and the human brain.

if that happens,

it's okay with me

if something else

gets a chance.

If the life force

experiments with

another form,

that's fine.

That's okay too.

I mean,

I hope that doesn't

happen.

I will work to try

to keep it from happening,

but either way,

it's all right.

Now,

if there's any hope

of keeping that

from happening,

it has to involve

basic change

at the level

of consciousness.

And particularly,

it has to involve

basic change

in the nature

of science

and technology,

which has become

the religion

of our society.

Medicine,

which is an arm

of that,

really,

I think,

has taken the function

of religion

in traditional societies,

and physicians

fulfill the roles,

although not very well,

that priests have

in traditional societies.

When people

in traditional societies,

when something happens

that's never happened

before in a traditional society,

you go to the shaman

for an interpretation

of whether it's

good or evil.

In our society,

we go to doctors,

and we ask whether

it's good or bad

for our health.

Now,

that is our modern

version of all this.

But medicine

and science

do not fulfill

this magical

religious role

well.

There has to be

a change

in that area.

And some of what

I'd like to say

to you tonight

is about

the nature of science,

the problem

of studying

consciousness,

and some of the

lessons that

I have learned

from having

the privilege

of knowing

Albert Hoffman

and having

seen him,

although infrequently,

at gatherings

of this sort.

There are some

inherent problems

in studying consciousness,

and they should not

be belittled

because you can't

make them go away.

The first is

that consciousness

is not material.

Our science

is materialistic.

How do you study,

by methods

looking at

the material world

something which

is fundamentally

not material?

This is why

research on hypnosis

is so awful.

It's why

hypnosis,

for however many

years it's been

around,

remains something,

has an unsavory

scent about it

to scientists

and medical doctors.

Why it has always

had an uneasy

relationship

to medical science.

And even though

the effects are

dramatic and obvious,

I once saw a woman

have a baby

by cesarean section

under hypnosis

anesthesia.

She was fully

conscious and

was asked to look up

and watch when

the baby was delivered

and so forth.

What more could you

ask of in the way

of a dramatic

example of how

consciousness can

change physical

reactions?

And yet despite this,

research in this area

is just awful.

The reason is simply

that when someone

is in hypnosis,

there is no

objective way

that you can

document that fact.

There is no

objective reproducible

change in the

physical sphere

that is a marker

of that altered

state of consciousness.

And if your science

is totally materialistic,

how can you

make sense of that?

And if you can't

make sense of things

as a scientist,

what are you

going to do

about that?

The first thing

you can do

is try to ignore it

because it's a threat

to your worldview

if there's something

out there

that you can't

explain.

And if people

won't let you

ignore it,

then you can

make fun of it

or belittle it

or treat it

as if it's a joke

or something irrelevant.

And if you

can't do that

and somebody

continues to

force you

to look at it,

you can get mad

at the person

and punch them out.

And you see

all these range

of responses

in this field

of consciousness

research.

And the second

problem is

that consciousness

is rooted

in experience.

And here,

it seems to me,

is the fundamental

absurdity of the way

that our science

has developed.

The most obvious

fact of our existence

is that we are

of our existence.

How can you

construct a worldview?

How can you

construct a system

that tries to

explain the universe

and leave that out?

And yet,

that is what

our science tries

to do.

It tries to act

as if consciousness

doesn't exist

and to construct

mechanistic explanations

of phenomena

without reference

to that.

And that gets us

in a lot of trouble.

It leads us

to come up

with some very

implausible mechanisms

and explanations

for phenomena.

And it also

leaves us unable

to explain

a lot of things

out there,

like hypnosis,

that may be

very important to us.

Now, I am

particularly conscious

of this because

I work as a physician.

I practice

general medicine.

And I practice

medicine based

on the assumption

that consciousness

is central to any

theory of health

and healing

and illness.

And that when

anybody comes to me,

whether they're

well or sick,

I am always

paying attention

to their state

of consciousness

as well as

to their state

of the body.

And often,

I find,

in my experience,

that changes

in the realm

of consciousness

must accompany

physical treatments

if the physical

treatments aren't

to work.

That is my experience.

And I go

by my experience.

I see all the time

one of the saddest

things that I see

in my practice

is vast numbers

of people

who come to me

who have been

inadvertently hexed

by their encounters

with medical doctors.

You know,

there's a very well-known

phenomenon of hexing

that has been described

by anthropologists

and psychologists.

There's a little bit

of medical literature

on this as well.

There was an article

in the AMA Journal

in this past year

reported without comment

of a woman

here in Southern California

who had an advanced

case of lupus,

systemic lupus,

a major and serious

autoimmune disease.

She was examined

in a university hospital

here,

put on massive doses

of steroids

and immunosuppressive drugs,

did not respond.

She was Filipino.

And after a period of time,

she told her doctor

that she was certain

that the disease

was the result

of a curse

that had been placed

on her by a witch doctor

in the Philippines

and that she could not

be helped unless

she went back there

and had that lifted.

So she went back there

and had a good witch doctor

lift the curse

and she came back cured.

She was off all medication

at that point

and this was reported

in the AMA Journal

without comment

as an example of hexing

in medicine.

So they can see

that kind of thing

but don't know

what to make of it.

But what I see

is the creation

of disease by doctors

or the perpetuation

of disease by doctors.

And this is done

with verbal magic.

If I were king,

I would require

in medical schools

a course

in the power of words

and the importance

in being very

the importance

of being extremely careful

about the words

you choose

in speaking

to a sick patient

and a patient

who has come to you.

Most medical doctors

have no sense

of their power

as priests.

They have no sense

of their power

to create expectation

in somebody

who comes to them

in that role

and they abuse

that all the time.

Occasionally this happens

consciously.

Sometimes I see cases

where doctors

dislike patients

and say nasty things

to them in anger

but that's quite rare.

Much more often

these things are said

unconsciously

and unthinkingly.

A doctor makes

some idle remark

and years later

this remark

burns like a red hot coal

in that person's memory

and is a principal obstacle

to healing

or any change

in their physical condition.

Let me give you

a very gross example.

A patient came to me

this past year

from Finland

the woman from Helsinki

who was in her mid-30s

and had had multiple sclerosis

for the past five years.

She was on large doses

of toxic drugs

steroids

and immunosuppressive drugs

which she did not need

and were doing

her only harm.

She was very depressed.

The thing that most

alarmed me about her

was that her emotional reaction

to her illness

was completely wooden.

She talked about it

as if it were happening

to someone else.

I thought that was

a very alarming

state of consciousness

to be in about

having a devastating disease.

I worked with her

over the period of a month

and got her connected up

with, I put her

on a good diet

and I gave her

some herbal medicines

to take

and I got her connected up

with a visualization therapist

and with some good

exercise physiology people

and a lot of people

who had very positive attitudes

and over the space

she saw the possibility

that she could affect

the course of this disease

that she was not simply

a passive victim

of some outside force

operating on her

and the day before

she was to go back

to Finland

we were sitting together

and she was laughing

and joking

and she said to me

you know you wouldn't believe

what those doctors

did to me in Helsinki.

She said that the neurologist

at this hospital

that had taken a while

to make the diagnosis

her main symptom

was dizzy spells

and there had been

endless testing

and finally they had made

the diagnosis

of multiple sclerosis

and when they did

the chief neurologist

called her into his office

and told her she had

this disease

and then he said

wait here a minute

and he went out

and brought in a wheelchair

and asked her to sit

in the wheelchair

and said that he suggested

that she sit in a wheelchair

for one to two hours a day

to practice

wheelchair practice

I say that's a gross example

but I see many

many many examples

of this kind of thing

and it comes from ignorance

it comes from not seeing

the importance

of states of consciousness

of the non-physical realm

of medicine and treatment

and interaction

of people

of thinking that

everything is material

and I must also tell you

that in my time in medicine

I got my medical degree

in 1968

20 years

this has gotten worse

not better

for example

when I was in medical school

ulcerative colitis

was considered

one of the classic

four psychosomatic diseases

one of the four diseases

that all doctors recognized

had a mental emotional component

medical students today

are not taught that

they're now taught

all about elaborate mechanisms

in the colon

and interactions

with bacteria

and biochemical things

in the colon

and I presented them

a case

the way I discovered this

I had a fascinating case

of a man

who was a heavy smoker

in good health

in his 50s

who quit smoking

and three months later

out of the blue

developed the symptoms

of ulcerative colitis

he went to a

chief of gastroenterology

at a university hospital

was put on a lot of drugs

that did him no good

they did not tell him

not to drink coffee

he was drinking

three cups of coffee

in the morning

which is poison

for anyone with colitis

after several months

of getting in

worse and worse relations

with the gastroenterologist

he had an intuition

that if he started smoking again

his colitis would go away

so he did

and it did

very rapidly

and when he came to see me

he had been through this cycle

two more times

with the same results

except that each time

the colitis had appeared faster

after he stopped smoking

and took longer to go away

after he started

and when I saw him

he was terrified

that he was going to wind up

both being an addicted smoker

and have ulcerative colitis

this year

at the beginning

in the middle of last year

an article appeared

in the New England Journal of Medicine

reporting an increased incidence

of ulcerative colitis

in ex-smokers

not in current smokers

and the article went through

all this biochemistry

about nicotine

and so forth

and the conclusion was

we can think of

no possible mechanism

by which cessation of smoking

could result in

an increased incidence

of ulcerative colitis

I mean how dense

do you have to be

to see that mechanism

smoking literally

burns up nervous energy

that's one reason

why people get sucked into it

and if you shut that door

that energy is going to go somewhere

why in one person

it goes down

and causes this problem

in the colon

and why in another person

it may do something else

I don't know

and I have no problem

saying I don't know

about things either

the reason that's not

anyway

I presented this case

to a group of second year

medical students

at the University of Arizona

they had not been taught

that ulcerative colitis

was a psychosomatic disease

they had not heard that

the most important

single fact

about ulcerative colitis

because that's the sphere

through which you can

influence it most

not mentioned

so in 20 years

I don't see progress

I see things going

in the other direction

now

one of the most

obnoxious traits

of modern science

is its tendency

to negate our experience

I mean there is nothing

more obnoxious

than to tell a scientist

that you have experienced

something

and the scientist

tells you

that no you haven't

because we can demonstrate

objectively

that that didn't happen

and science does this

all the time

science does it

very frequently

in the area

of psychoactive drug research

there are an awful lot

of researchers

who have never

taken a psychoactive drug

and are studying

things like marijuana

or LSD

and have not tried it

themselves

how can you

how can you do that

there was a period

when I

there was a period

when I got asked

a lot to testify

as an expert witness

in various drug cases

and when these

would go to juries

you know in front

of judges

the prosecutors

are usually reasonably

well behaved

but when you get

in front of a jury

it's no holds barred

and so they start

right in with

well Dr. Weil

have you ever

taken this drug

yourself

and I did this

recently with

a peyote case

in Arizona

in a Mormon area

of Arizona

which didn't look

great

and the chief

of pharmacology

who is a

hard core

scientific materialist

at my medical school

and we don't get

along very well

we nod to each

other in the hall

but we think

very differently

was the chief

witness for the

prosecution

who tested

about

talked about

giving mescaline

to cats

grinding up

their brains

and looking

at degenerative

changes

I said

what I knew

about peyote

and the prosecutor

a woman

then lit

into me

and started

with

well Dr. Weil

have you ever

taken peyote

and I said

of course

I had taken

peyote

that I wouldn't

consider myself

an expert

on peyote

if in addition

to whatever

else I did

I haven't

taken it

myself

and she said

and what other

have you taken

this

and have you

taken that

and I said

look I can

save you time

I have taken

every drug

I have ever

written about

and I wouldn't

do it otherwise

and she said

well have you

gotten legal

permission

to do this

I said

well I don't

know who

you apply to

for a permit

to take

nutmeg

for example

anyway

the jury

acquitted

the man

they said

this was

an unlawnded

invasion

of freedom

of religion

by the state

of Arizona

great

good

and when

talked to

afterwards

by lawyers

they said

a major

reason

was the

contrast

between

this pharmacologist

who testified

at great length

and talked

down to them

and made them

feel as if

they didn't

know anything

and couldn't

understand

science

and somebody

who talked

from their

own experience

now

this is a

real problem

because science

and its

products today

are very toxic

in our world

a lot of

the problem

that we have

is the way

that science

and technology

are going

Albert Hoffman

is to me

a model

for what

science can be

he has operated

from intuition

he has operated

from his own

experience

he is a good

scientist

he combines

the best

of experience

of intuition

and intellect

that to me

is a model

for what

science should be

and he's come up

with very good things

and I want to make

one other comment

about him

that I find

another area

in which I

am very impressed

by him

and this I say

as a medical doctor

he ages

terrifically well

when I first

met him

years ago

he presented

himself

as a very

formal

Swiss

chemist

but I noticed

that he twinkled

and I still

see that twinkle

about him

and his

presence

is much younger

than his

chronological age

that to me

is very interesting

I have a lot

of old people

in my medical

practice

a lot of people

in their 70s

and 80s

and a lot

of people

ask me

what is the

secret of

growing old

well

the materialistic

scientist

says it's

to choose

your parents

right

you know

that it's

all genes

well I don't

believe that

because that's

not my prejudice

I look at

the other side

of things

and I think

that mental

state

and mental

attitude

are the key

to that

and there

is something

to me

that I

connect

that fact

of twinkling

and youthfulness

not equivalent

to chronological

age

so I think

in both

of those areas

he is a teacher

for me

and an inspiration

for all of us

and I'm delighted

to have been asked

here to talk

about him

thank you

Well, Andy will be a tough back to follow, but we have just the man.

But before I introduce him, some of you may wonder why Laura Huxley is not here tonight.

She had a crisis in her family that arose rather close to this date, and so she was unable to be here tonight.

It's a great pity because she was to represent femininity and the goddess, which is certainly a central concern for anyone who is sensitive to the psychedelic issue.

In fact, one way of looking at what psychedelics do is they simply dissolve the male ego and allow a more natural constellation of the psyche to show through.

You're listening to The Psychedelic Salon, where people are changing their lives one thought at a time.

And who is this just the man to follow Andy Weil, you may ask?

Well, my guess is that it's John Lilly.

But I actually haven't had a chance to listen to the next part of this conference yet, and so can't say for absolute certainty that that's who it is.

What I can say for sure is that you'll find out in my next podcast.

And also, I think we'll be hearing directly from Dr. Hoffman himself.

Now, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out something that you already know, but maybe you didn't think about when you heard Dr. Andrew Weil just now say,

We, meaning the psychedelic community, we are a very small minority, a very small minority, and have no illusions about that.

As you know, he made that statement in 1988, and I guess in the context of six and a half billion people on Earth, that may be so.

But I can promise you that there must be many millions of us today, because just for this podcast alone, there have been downloads from over a million unique IP addresses,

which may only translate into a few hundred thousand people, but this is only one of many, many podcasts that focus on the worldwide psychedelic community.

What wasn't expected in 1988 is this thing we call the Internet.

It's brought about more rapid change in this world over the past 20 years than the entire amount of change our species has experienced in hundreds of generations.

At least, that's my humble opinion.

This is it, in case you missed the memo, by the way, this is the big one, the quantum change that Terence sometimes called the end of history,

but what I think may be more accurately called the beginning of the history of a global species of constantly interconnected, communicating beings.

Maybe it's even the awakening of the Neosphere, as Teilhard once proposed.

Or, of course, we can still blow it, and the tipper of the last tipping point may just be you.

So, I'm going to be really nice to you, and encourage you to stay calm and keep on an even keel, so that you can tip us in the right direction.

Right now, every single woman, child, and man on the planet stands to be a pivotal figure in their immediate surroundings,

which means that you and I had better take a little break right now, maybe have a bag of vape, turn on some good music, and get up and dance.

For life is ultimately a dance, you know.

The point isn't to get somewhere, it is simply to dance, to enjoy the dance of life.

Who knows? This could be your last life, so why not make it enjoyable?

Well, that's a little more philosophic than this old carnival barker should be waxing,

and so I'd better close today's podcast by reminding you once again that this and most of the podcasts from the Psychedelic Salon

are freely available for you to use in your own audio projects under the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share-Like 3.0 License.

And if you have any questions about that, just click the Creative Commons link at the bottom of the Psychedelic Salon webpage,

which you can find at psychedelicsalon.org.

And if you're interested in the philosophy behind the salon, well, you can hear all about it in my novel,

The Genesis Generation, which is available as an audio book that you can download at genesisgeneration.us.

And for now, this is Lorenzo signing off from Cyberdelic Space.

Be well, my friends.

Greetings from Cyberdelic Space.

This is Lorenzo, and I'm your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

And with me today, well, at least virtually,

are some fellow saloners who send us some of their hard-earned cash to help offset some of the expenses here in the salon.

And those fine people are Garth A. and Rob P., both of whose names you've heard several times here before in the salon.

And also, we received a really nice donation from Ben P., along with a very generous donation from my longtime friend, Paul W.

And I should point out that it was Paul, who is one of my beautiful young gay friends,

who advised me to not let the establishment's prejudices keep me from naming this little project the Psychedelic Salon,

rather than the entheogen something or other.

He based his advice on the fact that the gay community recaptured the use of the word queer.

And, of course, we know, listening to Cat Williams and other great black comedians,

that the black community, at least within itself, has taken back the N-word.

And as Paul said, if you just change the word, they'll try to take that away from you, too.

So why not just put it out there where they have to deal with it?

And I still think that was among the best advice I've received.

So thank you very much, Paul.

And also, thank you, Garth, Rob, and Ben, for helping to keep these podcast fires burning during these summer months

when a large part of our audience is out in the world having all kinds of great experiences.

And it turns out that even some of our non-saloner friends may also be getting a taste of the salon,

because here's what Ben P. said when he sent in his donation.

Well, hey, it's nice of you to say that, Ben, but as we all know, I'm just the carnival barker

and all the actions in the tent were you and also, I guess, your taxi passengers now.

Well, you guys are all in the center ring.

My only job is just to tell you there's something going on in there, and then from there on, it's up to you.

And we're now just about to experience two more excellent talks that may give you something new to think about.

One is by Dr. John Lilly and the other by Dr. Albert Hoffman.

And we have Renaissance man Gary Eisenberg to thanks for sending these talks to me to play for you today.

As you know from my last podcast, the talks we're about to hear were recorded at an event that was also titled Albert Hoffman in America.

And it was to celebrate, among other things, the 50th anniversary of the first synthesis of LSD-25.

Now, one of our other fellow salonners, Niles Clifton Smith, was also there.

And here's what he posted in the comment sections of last week's podcast notes.

My t-shirt from this event is worn to near transparency, but still occupies a treasured place in my closet.

Looking back, this was one of the most formative events for my present life path.

I thank you for all the talks you have posted here, but for this one, most of all,

pro-noically, Niles.

Well, Niles, you and Gary were certainly at one of the most historic psychedelic lecture events of the last century.

And I'm very pleased that both of you are also with us here in the salon each week.

It gives me a feeling of continuity in our community in some strange way.

But enough of my chatter.

Let's get back to the events at the Scottish Rite Temple in Los Angeles, California.

It was the night of November 2, 1988, and let's hear what the leading lights of psychedelic research at the time

had to say about how things appeared back then, a little over two decades ago now,

and see if we think that we've maybe made a little headway in the struggle to reinstate our sacred medicines

back into the culture where they once held a very significant place in the lives of us humans.

And speaking of natural, I now want to introduce a man who it was always my great fear I might someday have to introduce.

A man who is a legend in his own right.

A man who speaks across the species line to the denizens of the deep sea

and across the stellar barrier to the denizens of distant stars.

Like myself, an altar boy in his youth.

A man who has given new meaning to the concept, enfant terrible.

We can say of him they threw the mold away before they made him.

No, I love to tease him, I love to watch him, the Obi-Wan Kenobi of psychedelic research, John C. Lilly.

Dominus Fobiscom.

Ite Misa Es.

Go, the mass is over.

My psychedelic experience had started about age seven, when I had visions of God on his throne, angel choir and so on.

And I told her nothing about this in the Catholic school I was attending.

And she said, oh, but only saints have visions.

And she abolished me being a saint, which was a good idea.

It wasn't until about 1953, when I was at the National Institute of Mental Health,

and the LSD pushers got after me, that I heard about LSD.

So I read all the literature, and I invented the isolation tank in 1954.

And I was floating around in the tank, people wanted me to take LSD,

and experience what that was like in the tank.

And I said, no, I have to get a physiological baseline, being a proper scientist.

A physiological baseline on me as an observer.

So I floated around for ten years, in spite of the pushers on both coasts.

And in 1964, I finally decided, well, it's time to take it.

So I came to California, had two trips, and then got Sidney Cohen to give me some.

And I went to St. Thomas, the Virgin Islands, and floated in an isolation tank there.

It was an eight-foot cube of seawater.

I was scared stiff.

Absolutely terrified.

And I injected 300 micrograms of Dr. Hoffman's elixir, intramuscularly, and floated in the tank.

And suddenly I was precipitated out to the farthest reaches of all the universes that exist.

Well, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't mean human at all, and I stayed out there for about six hours.

And then I was squeezed back into the body that was lying in the tank, and I cried.

I couldn't stand it.

Why should this happen?

Why become so limited as being a human?

Well, since then, I've spent many years trying to be human.

And some women think I'm successful, and others do not.

And I'm still trying, at age 73, to get my feet on the ground and my torso in the bed.

It's fun.

And all I can say is that anybody that uses the word drug, drugs, ought to have their heart and their soul examined.

There's no such thing as drugs.

There's no such thing as illegal drugs.

They're only chemicals.

They can change the molecular configuration within the brain itself,

and hence change who you are, and where you're going, and where you've come from.

Now, this is a profound experience.

I've written up as much as I can in books, but I'm only as much as it could be published.

Please speak louder.

We can't turn the mic up any higher.

He has a boss.

Well, the DEA ought to know about this meeting tonight, and rounds you all up and puts you in jail.

The drug enforcement agency is staffed by lawyers and ex-judges and so on, and I don't think they know what the score is.

Somebody said on TV the other day, the drug problem ought to be turned over to the Surgeon General and taken away from the Attorney General.

I think that the laws ought to be changed in the light of new knowledge, of new views, such as all of you experience,

and we ought to pressure these people to get educated in what it is to take LSD, what it is to take cocaine, and so on.

None of these substances have been treated as the way a proper researcher would treat them, working on himself.

I was brought up by a student of J.B.S. Halden, who laid down to his students that if you are going to do experiments on any human subject,

you must be your first subject.

So I went through various things like explosive decompression and so on, and I started my LSD work alone, and I continued my work with ketamine alone.

The isolation tank is a marvelous place for the scientific observer to look at the chaos within himself and not attribute it to something else.

However, I wish to point out also that I've experienced intelligence as far greater than mine or any human, and I call them the Earth Coincidence Control Office, ECCO, ECCO.

They're very profound, and they're monkeying around at everybody, and me especially, and taught me many, many things, whether I like it or not.

For example, when I take ketamine, or have taken ketamine in the past, they take charge, and I went to the UCLA Medical Library and read up on the psychotherapeutic use of ketamine, a psychedelic anesthetic.

And there's a uranium paper, and there's a uranium paper, in which they treated a hundred subjects in the hospital, and they all got out of the hospital with one trigger.

They used what was called anxiety provocation.

They'd give the person the ketamine and then scare them to death.

And, of course, they abandoned their neuroses, their psychoses, or whatever.

Well, I read that one afternoon, came home, and lay down on a mattress in my living room, and took 200 milligrams of ketamine, which is a fairly large dose.

And, suddenly, the Earth Coincidence Control Office precipitated me into the Earth 3000, and they removed my penis, my bloodless methods, and handed it to them.

Well, I screamed in terror, and my wife, Toni, came in from our bedroom and said, oh, it's still a task, look.

So, I looked up at the ceiling, and I said, who's in charge up there, like the psychotic kids?

And then she came back, no, you were over at UCLA today reading about anxiety provocation in order to cure one of an unconscious conflict.

That was your unconscious conflict, and we brought it out for you.

This isn't being used in psychotherapy, the way the OSD has been.

And, I suspect it's because psychotherapists don't like to be scared to death, or don't like to see people being very badly frightened.

And, they also don't like to see them get well, because then they lose their income.

I learned long ago that one is a psychotherapist until one is cured of one's own diseases.

I'm still not cured.

Well, I must say, I want to tell you a story that I told this afternoon about me and Albert Hoffman.

I first met him in 1977 at the University of California at Santa Cruz.

He gave a night lecture, and the student cheered everything he said, including when he said,

I'm not a guru, I'm a Swiss chemist.

After his talk, they had a reception, and with my knees shaking and sweat breaking out of my brow,

I walked through the line and reached out to shake his hand, and I said, I'm John Lilley.

He grabbed my hand with both of his, and he said, you are?

I just finished Santa the Cyclone, and our experiences were very parallel.

And I thought to myself, God bless it, I wish you had written that up in 1943, and he would

say there's a lot of trouble.

Now, we know that if you've been doing your homework, then, on average, this group has

slightly weaker kidneys than the normal American population.

So, we are going to call a 20-minute intermission, and then we'll have a musical interlude, and then

Dr. Hoffman's keynote address for the evening.

Will the volunteers who are helping with the event please come up to the stage, and we'll

meet back here, everybody, in 20 minutes?

At this time, I'd like to turn it over to Terrence McKenna again, who's going to encourage you

to donate freely to our foundation.

So, here's Terrence.

And thank you all very much for being here tonight.

Oscar.

Excuse me, I want to introduce very briefly Oscar Janiger, I got out of order here.

I'd like you all to give him a very, very warm welcome to make this foundation a reality.

Oscar.

Thank you very much.

I've been practicing in the last hour to twinkle since I heard Andy Weil.

I don't know how successful I am, but maybe you and Shrunk Rose will let me know.

This is the culmination of a long journey for me, which began in April of 1954, when I first

had my encounter, as many of you have, with these extraordinary medicines.

And I did many years of research, about 10 years, and then, as we put it, the troubles began.

Not the troubles for everybody, but for some of my researchers, so that we could not simply

continue the work that we did before.

Those following years are too well known to bear any repetition, for those of you who lived

through it, and what we have now is a memory in the general public of all of the evils and the problems

of these drugs that accrued from its use at that time, illegal use of LSD.

It was done prior to that time by a lot of very serious people who were working very hard

to understand this civility extraordinary.

We'd like to be able to bring that forth and to let people know and pierce the obfuscations

in the fogs, and what happened in the labbing years, and begin to see what the basis of further research

on LSD might really entail.

And in order to do that, we have to collect all that material, and put it together, and codify it,

and make it available to the public, and to researchers, and investigators.

And also, by the way, the future historians, who I would like to believe will find this a remarkable

watershed time in the history of the study of consciousness.

So, in order to do this, we've gotten a number of people together, and quite remarkably so,

because in a movement, this potent, this cultural movement that was so stirring,

we still have a good number of people who were part of the original group.

That's quite unusual, and just the impression of cultural time.

And so, what we would like to do is collect all this, have it available,

and really give people some understanding, and some insight, and education into the use

of the materials, and to me, that would be the greatest effort that we can make to legitimately

bring this back, and to use it promptly, as we would all like to do.

In order to do that, we sincerely need your help, and your response tonight indicates that there is a

a good deal of enthusiasm and interest in doing this, but remember, we have to have the education,

we have to have people know what this drug has done, and how we have looked at it, and the care we've given

to try to understand it.

And also, I might add that probably the street laboratory was not an entire chaos.

There's probably a good amount of data that could be collected on personal accounts and things

that happened over those years.

We'd like to bring those in, and also review those as well.

Keep in mind that, when we talk of consciousness, and however you want to interpret that,

the organization will also look at all the other methods.

We're not focused on LSD alone.

LSD was a tool that happened to be placed in our hands fortuitously at this time.

So, we want to use that, the organization as an umbrella, for all of these things that

are going on, and give a further emphasis to these studies.

We need your help, and Terence is going to tell you how we can get it.

Thank you very much.

Well, I think you can probably tell for yourselves, when you listen to Os Janiger talk, that you're

listening to a man discuss his dream.

Os mentioned to me several years ago that he had the notion for an archive of psychedelic

material, and took me on a tour of his house to look at the filing cabinets, the packing boxes,

filled with his own immense collection of material relating to creativity and LSD, and as we surveyed

his library, we talked of the many other libraries that researchers like Wasson and Hoffman have

gathered together over the years.

This is a priceless informational research repository.

One of the largest libraries devoted to this kind of material is the Fitzhugh Ludlow Library,

which currently is in storage in a use store in Santa Rosa.

Now, this is no place for these kind of collections to languish.

They should be available to the new generation of graduate students, historians, social commentators, who

will rescue psychedelics from the opprobrium that was heaped upon them by a hysterical government

in a hysterical era, now thankfully, let us hope, behind us.

Os is an extremely modest man, always willing to let somebody else stand in the spotlight.

Well, you know, it's an old saying that the way to get things done is to not care about who gets the credit.

So tonight, when I was urging him to stand before you, I said, Os, you just have to let the people of this town have an opportunity to show you how much they love you.

Well, an Irishman giving advice to a Jewish psychotherapist doesn't get very far.

But I want to join with you in saluting Oscar Janeker, a pioneer and a giant.

We have to move along here. It's a school night for some of us.

I have a couple of announcements.

Tonight's program will be heard tomorrow night at midnight on the most intellectually far-reaching and deep voice in the media,

Roy of Hollywood's show, What's Happening, on KPFK.

Roy and Diane are here tonight. There they are.

Another example of modest, self-effacing people who know how to get things done and who have an enormous impact on what gets thought in this town.

I've also been asked to say that those of you who are suffering with the heat, the air conditioning has failed.

It isn't your imagination. And for that, we apologize.

It must be something about Switzerland.

I don't know how many of you know who Brother Klaus is, probably not more than a half a dozen.

Carl Jung wrote about the visions of Brother Klaus.

Carl Jung was another switch.

with a deep love of country Paracelsus the great 16th century alchemist was

born in Switzerland so this tiny country with a tradition of human freedom and a

tradition of deep involvement with spiritual transformation has given us

in the 20th century in the late 20th century the heir to Carl Jung the heir to

Paracelsus the heir to brother Klaus Albert Hoffman alchemist philosopher

chemist human being a man of whom it might be said as was said of Giordano Bruno

and Galileo in the 16th century they brought astronomy of age what the

telescope was to astronomy in the 16th century the psychedelic compounds that

dr. Hoffman has discovered could be should be to 20th century psychology

psychology without psychedelics is pissing into the wind and I think we've had

quite enough of it it's time for a deep serious revisioning of what notions like

human potential consciousness expansion contact with the world soul time for a

deep revisioning of what these concepts can mean for us you know it was the great

French sociologist Jacques Ellul who said there are no political solutions only

technological ones the rest is propaganda and if you include in the definition of

technology a revivifying of the ancient technology of shamanic ecstasy through

the use of psychedelic compounds then I think you will have to agree and Andy

hinted at this we are not going to save the monkey unless we can shed the monkey

and the greatest impetus the greatest inspiration to the expression of our higher

selves comes in the confrontation with psyche that occurs in the psychedelic

experience ladies and gentlemen meet the man who made the 20th century that we all

know can be a model for all future time here from Basel Switzerland dr. Albert

Hoffman the father of psilocybin and LSD impressed by the warm reception which I

received here in California I thank you so much I am sorry I must apologize that I

must rely my book on my paper speaking a foreign language the announced topic of

this meeting embarrasses me to some extent first because it puts me too much in the

center of the event inauguration of a library dedicated to preserve and make

available the legacy of consciousness research of the last 50 years to this

research I made only a substantial contribution substance is the true

sense of this work namely in the form of two substances which became influential

second I am embarrassed because you may expect from me a survey of 50 years of

research of research in consciousness but this research is the domain of

psychologists psychiatrists and philosophers being a chemist I am not competent to present

such a survey what I can tell you are only my personal experiences and ideas precisely

50 years ago in 1938 I synthesize the substance which had an at that time unexpected influence on my life and

which led to influence and change the life of many others I mean the

the

to you the whole story this evening. I am often asked what has made the deepest impression

upon me in my LSD experiments, and whether I have arrived at new understandings through

these experiences. Of greatest significance to me has been the insight that I attained

as a fundamental understanding from all my LSD experiences, that what one commonly takes as

fear reality, by no means signifies something fixed, but rather something that is ambiguous.

That there is not only one, but there are many realities, each compromising a different

consciousness of and also of the ego. One can arrive at these insights through scientific

reflection. The problem of reality is and has been from time immemorial a central concern

of philosophy. There is, however, a fundamental distinction whether one approaches the problem

of reality rationally or if one obsludes from this problem emotionally through an existential

experience. The first planned LSD experience was therefore so deeply moving and alarming because

of everyday reality which had until then been considered to be the only one reality dissolved and

an unfamiliar ego experienced another unfamiliar reality. Another problem also appeared that concerning the

the innermost self which itself was able to record these external and internal transformations.

How could some strange changes in the experience of reality be explained? Evidently, the outer, objective,

material work did not change during the time I was under the influence of LSD. Therefore, something

inside me in the experiencing subject must have been altered. These reflections led me to conceive

reality as a product of a transmitter, the material exterior, exterior world, and the receiver, our consciousness,

the inner spiritual centre of a human individual. In order to describe the mechanism by which reality comes into being

clear. Through the interaction of these two factors, transmitter and receiver, one can use the main cover of

TV broadcasting. Evidently, both transmitter and receiver are needed to produce a TV picture. If either of one is

lacking, the TV screen will remain blank and there will be no sound.

correspondingly, if only the material world existed without conscious humans or vice versa, no human

reality would exist. Let us now examine what we know about what comprises human reality. Still using the

transmitter-receiver metaphor. First, what is the fundamental difference between transmitter and receiver?

Whereas there is only one transmitter, one outer material world. There are as many receivers as there are human beings. And whereas the

outer material world exists objectively, human consciousness is a subjective spiritual entity. All that we know objectively about the exterior world, about the

transmitter, has been revealed by a scientific research. All that can be discerned objectively in the exterior world is matter and energy. Matter occurring in innumerable, inorganic forms, the stars, the earth, with its oceans and mountains, with its

with its organisms, with its organisms of the plant and animal kingdoms, with the products of human creativity, cities, objects of our daily life and of arts, we are surrounded with matter and are matter ourselves with our bodily existence. The science which is involved with

The science which is involved with investigation of matter is chemistry. The other component of the outer world which can be objectified is energy. Energy occurring as radiation, heat and kinetic energy. So much for the transmitter. Now, what do we know about the receiver?

The human consciousness?

The human consciousness. Consciousness defies scientific definition. For it is what I need to contemplate what consciousness is. Our inability to grasp the very nature of consciousness can be illustrated by this metaphor. You can pull yourself into the

air by the air by clicking on your own head. That tends to define consciousness. Consciousness can only be described as the receptive and creative spiritual center of the ego. As the very core of what we call I. Consciousness remains a mystery. It's a very central mystery of our existence. It's a very central mystery of our existence.

This becomes even more evident. This becomes even more evident if we examine its role as the

thinking. This becomes some менее. It's very central elements. The human artificial intelligence.

The antennae of the human perceives are formed by this is a celestial intelligence. And because of our

its universe is recognized by this atom and its object on the outer world. The antennae of the human receiver are formed by this

Force of our five sensory organs. The antennae of the human perceives are formed by our five sensory organs. The antennas of the optical images, the eye, the eye is capable of receiving electromagnetic waves and projecting a picture onto the retina that coincides with the object of the

checked from which those waves emanate. It is important to realize that the human eye

can only receive a very small band of the immeasurable spectrum of electromagnetic waves

traveling through the universe, namely only waves measuring 0.4 to 0.7 thousandth millimeter.

Within this small section, our eyes and the receiver, our consciousness, are capable of differentiating

between different wavelengths and recording them as different colors. In connection with our reflections on reality,

it is important to note that colors do not exist in the exterior world. Most people are not aware of this basic fact,

even though it can be looked up in every textbook on physiology. That actually, objectively, exists in the outer world

is matter. Matter transmitting energy, transmitting electromagnetic oscillations of varying wave lengths.

If an object reflects or transmits electromagnetic waves with a length of 0.4 thousandth of a millimeter,

same we say that it is blue. If it transmits waves with a length of 0.7 thousandth millimeter,

same we describe the object as being red. This means that the perception of color is a purely psychological

and subjective event, taking place in the inner space of an individual. The brightly colored world, as we see it,

does not exist on the outside. It exists only on the screen inside of every individual.

Regarding the acoustic world, there is a similar relationship between transmitter and receiver. The antenna for acoustic signals,

the ear displays a similar limited breath of reception in its function as part of the receiver.

Unlike colors, sounds do not exist objectively. What does exist objectively are, once again, waves,

wave-like compressions and expansions of the air, which are received by the ear, registered by the hymphonic membrane,

and transformed into the sensation of sound in the hearing center of the brain. Also the other aspects of reality,

sounds are made accessible, which are made accessible by the remaining three senses,

sounds of taste, smell, and touch, are created by the interaction of transmitters in the outer world and receivers in the inner world.

Just like sound and colors, touch, smell, and taste don't exist objectively.

The two represent purely subjective phenomena occurring only in the inner space of individual humans.

The metaphor of reality as the product of transmitter and receiver clearly illustrates that the seemingly objective picture of the world surrounding us,

that which we call reality is actually a subjective picture. This basic fact signifies that the screen is not outside, but inside of every human being.

We all carry inside our own personal image of reality, created by a private receiver.

Understanding reality as a product of transmitter and receiver takes on an especially important meaning, which could existentially alter our daily life.

When we consider the power that each receiver, each individual human, plays in the role of the formation of reality.

We become fully aware of the world creating power vested in every human being.

Understanding makes us aware of the fact that each individual is the creator of his or her own world.

For it is in each individual mind and only there that the world and the abundance of life it contains, that the stars and the sky become real, become human reality, become human reality.

Our real, true freedom and responsibility is formed in our ability to create our own individual world.

Once I have recognized what part of reality is objectively on the outside and what is subjectively taking place within myself, then I am more aware of what I can change in my life.

Where I have a choice and thus what I am responsible for, conversely, I become aware of what is beyond my willpower and has to be accepted as an unauthorable fact.

This clarification of my potential and my responsibility can be of invaluable help.

I have the ability to choose what I want to receive from the endless infinite program of the great transmitter from creation.

That means that I can let those aspects of the cosmos that make me happy enter into my consciousness and thus imbue them with reality.

Or I can let in other aspects, those that depress me.

It is I who create the bright and the dark picture of the world.

It is I who invest the objects that are only shaped matter in the outer world, not only with their color, but with my affection and my love, also with their meaning.

This applies not only to my inanimate surroundings, but also to the living beings, to the plants, the animals and to my fellow humans.

With this insight, the full creative power of love becomes evident.

Just as I am the receiver for messages from my fellow man, I am in turn a transmitter for him.

Since I am materially located in his outer world, I can only convey my messages, my desires, even if they are purely spiritual, an idea or my love.

Only through that will characterizes the transmitter, namely via matter and energy, an understanding expressed by a dance or a light touch.

Even this can only be conveyed by material fingers, material eyes, by the material bodies of a learning couple.

This shows that communication would not be possible without matter and energy.

The transmitter-receiver metaphor for reality reveals another basic fact, the fact that reality is not a fixed state.

Rather, it is the result of continuous input of material and energetic signals from the outer world and that continuous decoding and transformation into inner conscious experience, into inner conscious experience.

This demonstrates that reality is a dynamic process, being created anew at each moment.

The actual reality exists in the here and now, in the moment.

This explains why a child, living in the given moment, much more extensively than an adult perceives a real image of the world.

It lives in a world permeated with more reality, more truth than that of the adult.

To experience true reality in the moment is one of the main concerns of mysticism.

That is where childlike a mystical experience meets.

If reality were not the result of continuous changes but a stationary condition, there would not be no experience of the moment, there would not be even any time.

Since the sensation of time is only possible through the perception of change.

The dynamic character of reality creates time.

The transmitter-receiver concept of reality also impacts the insight into the essence of time.

This metaphor of reality would appear to correspond to a dualistic concept of the world.

External space, internal space, objective transmitter, subjective receiver.

But reality, everyday reality, can be experienced and imagined only as a totality of transmitter and receiver.

There would be no picture or sound on the TV screen if either one were missing.

This example makes it evident that transmitter and receiver are nothing other than constructs of our intellect.

Useful, valuable, even necessary means for a rational understanding of the mechanisms by which human reality exists.

Dualism is but the construct of our intelligence, which leads us to believe that the so-called objective exterior world stands in opposition to our inner subjective spiritual world.

The failure to grasp that there is no dualism is one of the main reasons, if not the main reason, of the tragic catastrophic developments in our world.

This dualistic worldview, so dominant in Western culture today, has its roots in Greek presocratic philosophy, and in the Judeo-Christian belief, makes earth your servant.

The experience of the world as matter, as an object to which man stands opposed, provided the philosophical basis for the development of modern natural sciences and technology.

With this science and technology, man has changed the world, has subdued nature.

Its wealth has been exploited in a manner that may be characterized as plundering.

And the sublime accomplishment of technological civilization, the comfort of Western industrial society stands face to face with the catastrophic destruction of the environment.

Our objective intellect has progressed even to the heart of the matter, to the nucleus of the atom and its splitting, and has unleashed energies that threaten all life on our planet.

This misuse of this knowledge could not have emerged from a consciousness of reality in which human beings perceived themselves as an integral part of living nature and the universe.

All of today's attempt to make evidence for the damage by adopting environmental protection.

objective measures will remain futile, or superficial patchwork, if no change of the dualistic worldview ensues, until it is replaced by an existential experience of a deeper reality.

The experience of such an all-encompassing reality is impeded in an environment rendered dead by human hands, such as we find in our great cities and industrial districts.

Here the contrast between self and outer world becomes especially evident. It is these sensations that impress themselves on everyday consciousness in western industrial society and everywhere where technological civilization extends.

It is also these morbid sensations that strongly influence modern art and literature. In a natural environment there is less danger that a split reality experience will arise.

In fields and forests, and in the animal world shelters therein, indeed in every garden a reality is perceptible that is infinitely more real, older, deeper, and more wondrous than everything made by man.

A reality that will endure long after the inanimate, mechanical, and concrete world has vanished, become rested, and fallen into ruin.

In the sprouting, growth, blooming, fruiting, death and regeneration of plants, in their relationship with the sun, whose light they are able to convert into chemically bound energy in the form of organic compounds,

out of which all that lives on earth.

Out of which all that lives on earth is built, in the being of plants, the mysterious, inexpressible, eternal life energy is evident, the same that has brought us forth and takes us back into its swamp, and in which we are sheltered and united with all living things.

We are not leading to a sentimental enthusiasm for nature to go to nature in Jacques Rousseau's sense.

That romantic movement which sought the idyllic in nature, which can also be understood as a reaction to humans' kind feeling of separation,

of separation from nature.

What is needed today is a fundamental existential experience of the oneness of all living things, of an all-encompassing reality.

But this happens less and less as the primordial flora and fauna of Mother Earth must yield to a dead technological environment.

The experience of reality as the ego opposed to the outer world has already begun to form itself during Greek antiquity.

As I mentioned before, no doubt at that time people already knew the suffering connected with the dualistic consciousness of reality.

The Greek genius tried to cure this disease by supplementing the objective Apollonian worldview with the Dionysian world of experience, in which the split was abolished in ecstatic inebriation.

It is remarkable what the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche wrote about this in his book, The Geburts der Tragöne, The Verse of Tragedy.

We can read there.

It is either through the influence of narcotic potions, of which all primitive peoples and races speak in hymns, or through the powerful approach of spring, penetrating with joy all of nature, that those Dionysian stirrings arise,

which in their intensification leads the individual to forget himself completely.

Not only does the bond between man and man become to be forced once again by the magic of the Dionysian right, but alienated, hostile and subjugated nature again celebrates her reconciliation,

it is her vertical son with man.

So far, Nietzsche.

The Dionysian cult was closely connected with the mysteries of Eleusis.

The most important mysteries of the antique world, which were celebrated annually in the fall over a span of about 2,000 years.

These mysteries were established by the goddess of agriculture and grain, Demeter, as thanks for the recovery of her daughter Persephone, whom Hades, the god of the underworld, had abducted.

A first offering of thanks was the ear of grain, which was presented to Tryptolemus, the first high priest of Aduces.

The cultivation of grain was then disseminated of the whole world.

Persephone, however, was not allowed to always remain with her mother.

She had to return for a part of the year to the underworld.

During this time, it was winter on earth.

The plants died and withdrew into the ground, only to awaken to new life early in the year with Persephone's journey back to earth.

The myths of Demeter, Persephone, and Hades formed, however, only the external framework for the events as the mysteries.

The climax of the ceremonies, which began with the procession from Athens to Eleusis, lasting several days, was the concluding ceremony of initiation.

The initiates were forbidden by penalty of death to divulge what they had learned and beheld in the innermost holiest chamber of the temple, the Teresirium.

Not one of the multitude that were initiated, ever divorced.

Parthenius, Plato, Roman emperors like Hadrian, Marcus Aurelius, many others known figures of antiquity, were part to this initiation.

It must have been an illumination, a visionary glimpse of a deeper reality, an insight into the true basis of the universe.

We can deduce this from the initiate's own statements about the value and the importance of the vision.

For example, it is reported in a hominic hymn,

Blissful is among men on earth who has beheld that.

He who has not been initiated into the holy mysteries remains a corpse in gloomy darkness.

Pindar speaks of the Eleusian benediction with the following words.

Blissful is he who, after having beheld this, enters on the way beneath the earth.

He knows the end of life as well as its divinely granted beginning.

Cicero, also famous initiate, said about the splendor that fell upon his life from Eleusis.

Not only have we received the reason there that we may live in joy, but also besides that we may die with better hopes.

How could the mythological representation of such an obvious occurrence which runs its course annually before our eyes,

the seed grain that is dropped into the earth, diced there,

prove to be such a deep, comforting experience as that attested by the cited reports.

It is traditional knowledge that the initiates were furnished with a potion, the kikeon, for the final ceremony.

It is also known that barley extract and mint were ingredients of the kikeon.

Scholars of mythology, like Karl Kereni, are of the opinion that the kikeon was mixed with a hallucinogenic drug.

I was associated with Kereni in the sixties, doing research on this mysterious potion, an investigation as to what kind of hallucinogen could have been contained in the kikeon.

A reference of this collaboration is made in Kereni's book Eleusis, which was published 1977 in New York.

And it is from that text that the preceding statements on the illusion mysteries were taken.

Later in the seventies, I was again engaged in the investigation of the hallucinogen in the kikeon.

This time I worked in collaboration with Gordon Lawson, the famous ethnomycologist with whom I had worked in the research of magic plant, Mexican plants,

to sell a pseudocybin mushroom and on New York.

And Karl Ruck, professor at Boston University, who was a classical scholar specialized in Greek ethnobotany.

We published the results of our studies in the book entitled The Road to Eleusis, which was published in 1978.

In that publication, we put forth the hypothesis that the kikeon's effect could have been due to an LSD-like preparation of ergot.

From investigations in the Sandbox research laboratories on all the various species of ergot fungus, I knew that ergot growing on the wild grass,

which was passed, which is widespread in the Mediterranean region, contains the same alkaloids that we had found in the ancient Mexican drug oloductum,

namely lysergic acid amide and lysergic acid hydroxyamide, closely related to lysergic acid diethylamide, to LSD.

The high priest of a youth had access to this hallucinogen just in front of the temple.

They just had to collect the infected grains of past ballonisticum growing there, grind them, and put the powder into the kikeon in order to have a perfect hallucinogenic potion.

If they really did so, of course, must remain a hypothesis.

But a hypothesis with a high degree of probability.

And Demeter was the goddess of grain.

The culturally-historical meaning of the mysteries that produces their influence on European intellectual and spiritual history can scarcely be overestimated.

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to be separate from the outer world, we need to be healed from a dualism which had and

still has such catastrophic consequences as expounded in the preceding reflections.

Insights into the essence of reality which I tried to provide using the transmitter-receiver

metaphor could help us to overcome this dualistic worldview.

However, insights that are solely the result of rational reflections are not effective enough

to become decisive factors in our lives. Only when accompanied by an existential emotional

experience do they grow strong enough to be able to influence an older overview of life.

Such an emotional confirmation of an insight of the truth can be achieved through meditation.

I see the true importance of LSD, the cucune of our time in its ability to provide a pharmacological

approach to meditation, aimed at the experience of a deeper, all-encompassing reality. A reality

in which the outer material and the inner spiritual world's transmitter and receiver are experienced as one.

I thank you for listening.

You're listening to the Psychedelic Salon where people are changing their lives one thought at a time.

Well, what can I say after that? Other than I think that I'll go back yet one more time and

re-listen to Dr. Hoffman's words of wisdom. Just now on my second listen I heard him say a couple of things

that I missed the first time because probably I was thinking about what he just said and didn't keep up with the next thought he was sending our way.

I think there may be a lot more in this talk than a single listen can provide.

Also, I'd hoped to post a picture of the flyer that was used for this event, but the only place I could find that had a copy

was in the Allen Ginsberg papers at Stanford where flat box 6 folder 2 allegedly holds a poster that's labeled

Albert Hoffman in America, poster 1988, October 2nd. So now we have yet another date, October 2nd. We've had November 2nd,

November 4th, and in a minute I'll tell you yet one more date. So anyway, if you happen to be in the Stanford neighborhood,

maybe you can take a look for yourself someday and let us know what it looks like.

Also, there was one other recording that Gary sent me, but I'm not going to play it here in the salon because I'm not quite sure about the copyright on it.

But what it is is a recording of a radio interview that Dr. Hoffman gave on KCRW, I think a day or so before the talk we just heard.

At least I think it was recorded in November, although the file name on it says April 1988.

So all we know for sure is all these talks took place in 88 sometime.

But in any event, it's really an interesting recording because Dr. Hoffman is heard answering questions from the interviewer

without having to read his lecture notes and so he's much more spontaneous and just sounds great.

So should you want to listen to it, I've posted it with the program notes for this podcast and you can download it directly from there if you want to hear it.

And I'll leave it up there until somebody says I can't have it and have to take it down.

Well, that's going to have to do it for today.

And so I'll close today's podcast again by reminding you that this and most of the podcasts from the Psychedelic Salon are freely available for you to use in your own audio projects

under the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Sharealike 3.0 license.

And if you have any questions about that, just click the Creative Commons link at the bottom of the Psychedelic Salon webpage,

which you can find at psychedelicsalon.org.

And if you're interested in the philosophy behind the salon, you can hear all about it in my novel, The Genesis Generation,

which is available as an audio book that you can download at genesisgeneration.us.

And for now, this is Lorenzo signing off from Cyberdelic Space.

Be well, my friends.

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